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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Breakfast, lunch and dinner.
    Right...the breakfast and lunch are already being provided...for...the children...so...the whole bull**** kids starving at school argument sort of flies out the window.

    Damn I wish the people that supported these programs were actually PAYING for them. Right now. Without a government creating MORE deficit spending.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not what she said.

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    Well, you can believe something false if you want, but there is no way that is her point.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't mistake a lack of a thread for lack of knowledge or concern. As I said, because many bills have been held up, some most would consider easy to reach agreement on by reasonable people, there is more here to be upset about with both parties.

    And if you notice, I start very few threads. I merely listen and talk when I hear something I deem worth my responding to. You leap to far too many inaccurate conlusions.
    Riiiight...you and the rest have been just falling over yourself over your concern for 'the children' and your desire to provide them dinner at school and all three meals during the summer. ANd...of course...thats why you and the other activists have been so anxiously engaged in doing it. Because you believe in it.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Other than the bleating on about 'the children
    am i mistaken? isn't this thread about a prospective bill to feed hungry children? if you want to discuss something else, then open another thread on your chosen topic. let me know of it and i will gladly join you to discuss the other issue rather than have it intrude on this thread

    (and seriosly...why dont you just take the children and house them in state homes and get them out of those horrible existences)
    then your solution is to take the children who are hungry away from their parents and place them instead in a government funded and operated facility
    never knew you were a socialist who advocated the adoption of the old USSR model
    but tell us more (preferably in its own thread) about how you would determine which kids could stay with their parents and which should go into the government operated "homes"
    would they be able to return to their parents if their parents met some bar of acceptable parenting ability?
    what would that be? who would decide which were adequate and which were inadequate parents? how often would that be reviewed
    must say it amazes me that so many conservatives want to adopt socialist practices, some even criticized by us not that long ago when they were practiced by the communist soviets
    what seems odd too, is that so many folks who are opposed to abortion are also so keenly opposed to providing government assistance to unwanted/unplanned kids
    what an unfortunate disconnect

    have you actually read the legislation?
    no
    Do you know what it calls for?
    hopefully, the feeding of hungry students. what are you telling us it will do instead?
    Do you support creating 17 new governmental agencies...undefined grant prgrams...etc?
    sounds like the bush regime after 9/11, so tell me more, because his responses to national problems tended to be very stupid. tell us what about this bill makes no sense and tell us how it could be improved. or would you rather us have classrooms filled with hungry, malnourished students ... only to wonder why their academic performance is sub-par

    Do you advocate that the money already being paid to providers of foster kids for their sunstinence and to poor families still be paid to them while disregarding the fact that now you are advocating paying for breakfast lunch and dinner for 20+ million children year round (even during the summer?).
    absolutely not. the money provided for student meals should go for student meals. please point to where the taxpayer would be paying for the same meal twice

    So...no consequences...no reduction dollars to foster care providers that no longer have to sustain the children.
    if the money given over to foster parents is no longer going to be required to be used to provide the kids' meals then that money should be withdrawn and placed into whatever program results which will actually be responsible for feeding the hungry kids
    if that is what is wrong with the bill, then that is what the republicans should insist be changed
    however, it appears they only want to deny food to hungry kids unfortunate to have been born into poverty
    And if this is so all fired important to liberals what the **** is wrong with you??? Why arent you doing this already...on your own?
    actually, i do. and many of my friends do. but clearly, that is not enough. we need more people to step forward, or we need to end the problem. i do not see more people stepping forward, otherwise this bill would not be on the agenda because there would have been no problem to address
    Why havent you created private funds to take care of all poor children?
    again, i do provide food to a large number of children and political/religious refugees. the demand far exceeds my ability
    Why must you INSIST that the nany state government do it all?
    the purpose of government is to provide for the common welfare of its citizens. clearly, that welfare needs more than what is now available
    Where is your conviction? Where is your integrity?
    don't know what you are speaking of
    i operate a soup kitchen, feeding over 400 per week
    i provide supplemental food for approximately two dozen refugees who are without means and who have not assimilated into our society to become self sufficient
    i provide my time to do this at no cost, as i am retired, and i incur the expenses individually, in addition to what i have been able to solicit as support for those efforts
    where is my conviction or integrity lacking?
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't mistake a lack of a thread for lack of knowledge or concern. As I said, because many bills have been held up, some most would consider easy to reach agreement on by reasonable people, there is more here to be upset about with both parties.

    sure......
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    am i mistaken? isn't this thread about a prospective bill to feed hungry children?
    Well now...stop right there. IS that what this thread is about? Or is it about kneejerk ideologues and a government bent on expanding social services?

    Those poor hungry children are ALREADY being fed breakfast and lunch...arent they? I mean...you DID read the proposed legislation, didnt you?

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Riiiight...you and the rest have been just falling over yourself over your concern for 'the children' and your desire to provide them dinner at school and all three meals during the summer. ANd...of course...thats why you and the other activists have been so anxiously engaged in doing it. Because you believe in it.
    Silliness aside, yes, it is a fair issue and there is likley some concern. What do you think is required to speak on these issues?

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well now...stop right there. IS that what this thread is about? Or is it about kneejerk ideologues and a government bent on expanding social services?

    Those poor hungry children are ALREADY being fed breakfast and lunch...arent they? I mean...you DID read the proposed legislation, didnt you?
    The Bill is about feeding chilfren. Yes.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i operate a soup kitchen, feeding over 400 per week
    i provide supplemental food for approximately two dozen refugees who are without means and who have not assimilated into our society to become self sufficient
    i provide my time to do this at no cost, as i am retired, and i incur the expenses individually, in addition to what i have been able to solicit as support for those efforts
    where is my conviction or integrity lacking?
    Taking you at your word...apparently you are fighting a lonely mission on your own...because if all the libs that claim to offer service and care so much offered the same kind of support 'you' do then we sure wouldnt be having this discussion, or need the government.

    We could compare pro-bono and volunteer work sometime...it would probably blow your mind...

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? That is your observation? Wow. So let me see if I have this straight in layman's terms.....You think that welfare, and handouts help these communities more so than having a job and a sense of real worth eh?

    j-mac
    sorry, but the problem you are experiencing is one of reading comprehension

    self reliance is always better than being dependent. no one has foolishly said otherwise

    the point i was making is the insistence by those on the right wing who say that the democrats offer assistance to the working class only because they want their votes
    i commented if that was true, and effective, then we should see the republicans employing such an effective strategy
    but since the republicans do not use what was supposed to be an effective practice to get elected, it can be assumed it is not a very realistic or effective practice. it should then be viewed as merely an excuse to spin the circumstance away from the reality that the democrats tend to provide programs to help the working class only because those problems need to be addressed, rather than to gain their votes
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