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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    They must have left out that end bit "And his children shall starve as well."
    sorry, I don't/didn't expect anyone else to feed my children..why should I be forced to feed his?

    by continuing to feed them for him all we do is make the situation worse. each of them will grow up to have more children for my children to have to feed. with each passing generation there will be more and more "poor" children to feed and less and less productive citizens to feed them.

    what, pray tell, is going to happen when the system collpases? better his children starve today than his, mine and our grandchildren starve tomorrow.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As I've told j, we are the government. It's just one tool we can use. BTW, I am a Christian. And I have sat in on Christain meeting were conservative Christians have complained that they shouldn't have to give so much to the poor.

    And why won't it see the lunch tray. Explain.
    Did you see all the "extras" in the bill? Why the need?

    The government already dipped into social security time and time again until it was gone. Are you actually putting forth the idea that the government isn't grotesquely wasteful with our money?

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, I don't/didn't expect anyone else to feed my children..why should I be forced to feed his?

    by continuing to feed them for him all we do is make the situation worse. each of them will grow up to have more children for my children to have to feed. with each passing generation there will be more and more "poor" children to feed and less and less productive citizens to feed them.

    what, pray tell, is going to happen when the system collpases? better his children starve today than his, mine and our grandchildren starve tomorrow.
    Actually by all accounts, be more worried about feeding and taking care of old people, that's the biggest concern, people are having less babies in the developed world. Your assessment is off a little.

    For the first time in human history, especially in Japan, older people will outnumber younger ones.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Actually by all accounts, be more worried about feeding and taking care of old people, that's the biggest concern, people are having less babies in the developed world. Your assessment is off a little.

    For the first time in human history, especially in Japan, older people will outnumber younger ones.
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    been to many housing projects and/or trailer parks lately?
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As kids? Provided for themselves?
    certainly helped with family stuff; but as far as feeding and housing myself no, no one is arguing that they should. why do lefties always assume that if you don't want the Federal Government doing it, you obviously don't want it done?
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    At first I was confused - because I KNOW that all children eat lunch at school - and many eat breakfast. If their parents qualify they are on a free or reduced program.

    So this line suggests that, right now, children are going to school - but not eating lunch at all.
    the $4.5 billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat free lunches at school
    But that's not the case. The real issue of the bill is this:
    The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000, using Medicaid and census data to identify them.
    AFTER school should not be a SCHOOL concern at all.

    There's no reason why schools should be turned into a soup-kitchen in AFTER SCHOOL hours.

    The purpose of the school cafeteria is to provide food to children DURING school hours - and since many buses pick kids up at the crack of dawn it makes sense that it would include breakfast, as well. . . but they should draw the line of this issue at 'dinner'

    That part of a child's day, diet and life should be purely in the governance of the parents . . .and if they qualify for assistance - then they should be able to get said funds through their already existing welfare / tanf or whatever it might be.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't really know how to respond to that nonsense. I really don't. It is not such a bad thing to help were we can. And government is a perfectly legitimate tool to use to that. It is a far better use of the tax dollar than helping corroprations or fighting needless wars IMHO.
    No, government is not a legitimate tool to help others. The government is not being kind and generous by taking other peoples money and giving it to a third party, usually because of reelection campaigns.

    People can help other people best when it is direct and from the heart, and given the chance people will do that. Charity is a good thing but enforced charity, which is what this "tax the rich" class warfare is all about, is not a good thing. It separates people from each other, breaks down communities, and creates resentments. There is evidence of that everywhere.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    important part bolded


    been to many housing projects and/or trailer parks lately?
    Well sure if you look at a localized area, but we're talking nationally.

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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    important part bolded


    been to many housing projects and/or trailer parks lately?
    Sadly - only about 2/3 of our nation is 'developed' in the sense that we consider it.

    They tried to solve some of this problem with efforts like 'the projects' like Cabrini Green.
    And with other efforts like welfare and such benefits.

    Nothing's really working out well to *end* the problem.
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    Re: Republicans block child nutrition bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    ke 'the projects' like Cabrini Green.
    And with other efforts like welfare and such benefits.

    Nothing's really working out well to *end* the problem.
    And the problem will never end when people become dependent on government rather than becoming self reliant.

    We have family and friends to help us in time of need, of unexpected and unforeseen problems, as well as the kindness of strangers. We lose our humanity if we turn our backs on those in need and tell the government to look after those having difficult times. We are shirking our own personal responsibilities by not helping others ourselves.

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