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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Much of what this administration has done, has been good to set a careful balance between the private market wealth creation and [B]government necessity to avoid the worst aspect of capitalism[/B]. This however, I just can't figure out. I support a temporary ban on gulf oil drilling to give the oil industry time to get their ducks in a row, but this is excessive to the point of insanity. Even after sleeping on it, I am pretty upset about this.
    OK I'll bite. Please explain this one.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    OK I'll bite. Please explain this one.
    The free market can and will kill you to make a dollar. Some sort of authority needs to be in place to curtail that. So, you have to balance that government interference to make sure there's not too much or too little government, as both are harmful.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The free market can and will kill you to make a dollar. Some sort of authority needs to be in place to curtail that. So, you have to balance that government interference to make sure there's not too much or too little government, as both are harmful.
    Will you please explain this statement without the hyperbole. Why do I need an authority to moniter/curtail the free market?

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    Will you please explain this statement without the hyperbole. Why do I need an authority to moniter/curtail the free market?
    Because the free market is an authority in and of itself. As the addage goes, "its human nature". There needs to be oversight whether its government bureaucrats or ceo's
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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/us...ll.html?src=me

    Previously, I could make sense of Obama's actions. This one truly baffles me and I cannot think of a good reason that this route would be pursued. This make me wonder if Obama has the US's interests in mind at all. While this may seem minor to many, and its an industry I don't really care about, this action makes no sense and is screwed up enough to make me VERY strongly consider not voting for him on the next election. (he would have to actually do liberal things between now and the next election for me to even consider it)

    So this issue might be a turning point for me, but I have no plans to turn into a foaming mouth hack.
    well, look at his background; he's come from the world of academia, never has he had to face the actual economic results of his preferred policies before. likely it's a question for him of simply which would be mostestest safestest for the environment, and he doesn't really stop to consider the economic implications on the same plane.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The free market can and will kill you to make a dollar. Some sort of authority needs to be in place to curtail that. So, you have to balance that government interference to make sure there's not too much or too little government, as both are harmful.
    Currently, we have far too much of the latter.
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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    Will you please explain this statement without the hyperbole. Why do I need an authority to moniter/curtail the free market?
    The free market came up with products like Radium Water.

    Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like. Radioactive water, sold as an energy drink. People died, company kept selling it, claiming there was no conclusive evidence that the deaths were linked to their product. Wasn't until some famous guy died that the product was banned.

    Then there's the elixer sulfanimade disaster. Some company had some stuff they were gonna sell to cure whatever. Needed something to mix it with. Picked a deadly chemical. Apparently, their lead chemist was not aware this was a deadly chemical. No testing of any sort was done. Even cursory animal testing would have immediately revealed that this product was lethal. Not "one in a thousand people develop complications that may lead to death" lethal, I mean "drink this and you will die before you make it to the hospital" lethal. Like a hundred people died. You know what liability the company was held to?

    Minor fine. For labeling a product "elixer" when it didn't contain alcohol. See, there wasn't a law at the time that would make them test the product first. There wasn't a body that would enforce such a thing.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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