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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Oh no! In ten years we wont have that extra .8% global oil production!
    Look at how the past ten years have gone. Frankly, I don't think America has another ten years in its current form.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Much of what this administration has done, has been good to set a careful balance between the private market wealth creation and government necessity to avoid the worst aspect of capitalism. This however, I just can't figure out. I support a temporary ban on gulf oil drilling to give the oil industry time to get their ducks in a row, but this is excessive to the point of insanity. Even after sleeping on it, I am pretty upset about this.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    First, its just illogically handicapping as its not like this will stop drilling in the Gulf, it just stops US drilling in the Gulf. So there potential for disaster is still there, only now with no benefit whatsoever from it.

    Second, this is devestating upon the economy of Louisiana, and is basically simply built off the backs of using BP to finance that devestation for god knows how long. I don't have a HUGE issue with BP at first paying lost wages, but I can't really support that when the government itself is making those lost wages permanent.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Much of what this administration has done, has been good to set a careful balance between the private market wealth creation and government necessity to avoid the worst aspect of capitalism. This however, I just can't figure out. I support a temporary ban on gulf oil drilling to give the oil industry time to get their ducks in a row, but this is excessive to the point of insanity. Even after sleeping on it, I am pretty upset about this.
    Everything that this government has done, has had the exact opposite effect that we were told it would. This, is just the most glaring example.
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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    So other countries are drilling away, and we have to buy it from them?

    Nice job, Obama. Keeping pushing those Volt cars you're so invested in.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So other countries are drilling away, and we have to buy it from them?

    Nice job, Obama. Keeping pushing those Volt cars you're so invested in.
    But MOOOOM. Everyone ELSE is doing it!
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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But MOOOOM. Everyone ELSE is doing it!
    Wonderful oversimplification exposing your rather desire to engage in juvenile belittling of peoples views rather than an actual discussion.

    The reason to not drill off shore supposedly is that apparently our regulations aren't enough to keep the small chance of a catastrophic spill as a near 0 chance. So rather than take a small chance, and get a return for it, the Administration would rather take no chance in exchange for no return.

    Which, on the surface, at least seems vague reasonable. Sure, we're missing out on the oil production which is a bonus for us, but in exchange theoritically it should be safer.

    However, that would only be true if we lived in a wonderful little bubble where there's no one else in the world but America.

    In reality, multiple other countries drill or are planning to drill in the same general area. Many of these countries have even LESS regulations than we do on the industry. Which means even without us there, the chance for a catastrophic spill to affect us is still prevelant.

    Which suddenly changes the equation from "Drill and gain SOME positive effect from the gulf oil with a small increase to the total potential danger it presents" OR "Don't drill and gain NO positive effects from the golf oil while still having a relatively similar amount of danger present".

    Say you own a business and it would be nice to expand into the vacant lot of trees that is partially owned by you and partially owned by others. By expanding you'd have a benefit to your business with more room, but on the flip side you lose out on the very nice and picturesque area and space around you from the vacant lot. So you have to weigh the benefit of increased business with the cost of loss of aesthetics. Either choice would be a reasonably logical and understandable answer.

    However....if 3 other buisnesses that own the other 3/4ths of the lot all begin to build on their lot, bull dozing it, and leaving your lot now looking like a few random tree's then a picturesque spot then what's a logical decision changes. The aesthetics of keeping it is no longer as appealing or tangable, which makes the balance between the gain from building on it and the gain from not building on it sway significantly.

    If everyone elses drilling in the golf had 0% chance of affecting us, your juvenile worthless response would possibly actually have some sarcastic meaning behind it. Because we live in reality, where other states actions can have an affect on us, its not as simple as your little MOOOOOOOM retort tries to make it out to be.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But MOOOOM. Everyone ELSE is doing it!
    In other words, you've got nothin.

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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But MOOOOM. Everyone ELSE is doing it!
    If you mean, "everyone else is putting people to work in the middle of the worst economic down turn in 60 years", then by all means, let's do it.

    Obama could unbridle oil and gas exploration and probably drop the unemployment rate a couple of points, not to mention show more tex revenue, so as to fill the depleted government coffers; thereby giving him some serious political clout. Hell, he could even flim-flam his way through saying that the decrease in the unemployment rate is due to the porkulus package.

    His failure to take advantage of this political oppurtunity means one of three things, 1) he's a ****ing idiot, or 2) he doesn't rally care about the welfare of the working class, or 3) he's intentionally cocking up the American economy.
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    Re: U.S. Won’t End Gulf Drilling Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    In reality, multiple other countries drill or are planning to drill in the same general area. Many of these countries have even LESS regulations than we do on the industry. Which means even without us there, the chance for a catastrophic spill to affect us is still prevelant.
    Exactly! Let's see how much success Obama has making the Chinese foot the bill, when they blow out a well in the North Cuba Basin.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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