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    Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    An effort by Senate Republicans to temporarily ban earmarks died on the Senate floor Tuesday, but it was far from the last word on the controversial practice.

    A three-year moratorium on lawmaker-directed funds for pet projects back home was proposed as an amendment to a food safety bill. The bill passed, but the amendment failed to gain the 67 votes — two-thirds of the Senate — that were required under a procedural hurdle. The proposal failed with 39 yes votes and 56 opposed.
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    Earmarks, said Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), the Senate assistant majority leader, allow him "to direct federal dollars into projects critically important to our state and its future."

    Durbin argued that reforms had made the process more transparent and less likely to be abused.
    Ah, yes, that's right. If a thief breaks into your house during the day, instead of in the middle of the night, and steals your stuff right in front of you, instead of sneaking around, he should not be charged with a crime, because his process for stealing from you was transparent, right?

    I make this analogy because, whether transparent or hidden, earmarks in general are just a process for theft from the taxpayers of this country. True, some earmarks can be good, but the process has been abused to the point where it has to go. I repeat, earmarks must go. I fully support the GOP on this. Get the damn pigs (Congress) out of the damn trough.

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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    Agreed.

    If your "amendment" (earmark) isn't good enough to stand on its own and be incorporated into a bill suitable for the purpose of the appropriation, i.e., tacking on millions of dollars for sewage repair in a small town ontp a bill that deals with pollution clean, doesn't fly with me. You want that pet project fixed, bring the matter up in the appropriate bill.

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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    I don't really have a problem with earmarks. After after you consider what a tiny portion of the budget they occupy and how much of that tiny percent serves a legitimate purpose, you realize how unworthy the issue is of all the attention it garners, and that Congress has bigger fish to fry.

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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack19 View Post
    I don't really have a problem with earmarks. After after you consider what a tiny portion of the budget they occupy and how much of that tiny percent serves a legitimate purpose, you realize how unworthy the issue is of all the attention it garners, and that Congress has bigger fish to fry.
    With our deficit, everything, whether big or small, should be on the the cutting table.
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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    With our deficit, everything, whether big or small, should be on the the cutting table.
    That's not the issue, my point is that if our representatives are serious about fixing the deficit they should be focusing on things that will make a substantive impact on it, not on trivialities.

    I suspect that is part of the reason why earmark reform is so eagerly taken up by members of Congress, it gives people the impression that they are working to fix the deficit yet brings little risk of upsetting their constituencies the way talk of something big like entitlement cuts might.

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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    I believe the GOP platform to extend the Bush tax cuts is going to solve the deficit.
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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack19 View Post
    That's not the issue, my point is that if our representatives are serious about fixing the deficit they should be focusing on things that will make a substantive impact on it, not on trivialities.
    I see nothing wrong with removing trivialities from the table in order to focus on the larger issues. I doubt the public would react to the eradication of earmarks with some sort of disdain... or massive disapproval to the tune of "get something real done!".
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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I believe the GOP platform to extend the Bush tax cuts is going to solve the deficit.
    Care to explain how the tax cuts being extended for all but the top 2% will magically solve the deficit but somehow the top 2% having it extended won't, like the Democratic Party is pushing?

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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And here is a part so hilarious that you will die laughing:



    Ah, yes, that's right. If a thief breaks into your house during the day, instead of in the middle of the night, and steals your stuff right in front of you, instead of sneaking around, he should not be charged with a crime, because his process for stealing from you was transparent, right?

    I make this analogy because, whether transparent or hidden, earmarks in general are just a process for theft from the taxpayers of this country. True, some earmarks can be good, but the process has been abused to the point where it has to go. I repeat, earmarks must go. I fully support the GOP on this. Get the damn pigs (Congress) out of the damn trough.

    Article is here.
    This is why voter initiatives on a federal level would be a good. Politicians in general can not be trusted to do the right thing.
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    Re: Bid to ban earmarks falls short in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimjack19 View Post
    I don't really have a problem with earmarks. After after you consider what a tiny portion of the budget they occupy and how much of that tiny percent serves a legitimate purpose, you realize how unworthy the issue is of all the attention it garners, and that Congress has bigger fish to fry.
    That's exactly the attitude that blocks reform.

    What difference does it make how tiny the percentage is? It needs to stop.
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