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Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

I wonder how many experienced outdoorsy young recruits, the type that tend to flourish in the military, will choose not to join now?

San Francisco isn't exactly teaming with gun enthusiasts. LOL

You act like there aren't any homos in Texas. Austin and Dallas are like gay havens with great chicken wings.
 
I wonder how many experienced outdoorsy young recruits, the type that tend to flourish in the military, will choose not to join now?

San Francisco isn't exactly teaming with gun enthusiasts. LOL

When Britain was thinking about changing to allow gays to serve, polling within the military indicated that a large portion of the military would not re-enlist and that enlistment would be harder. The truth was that neither happened, as retention and recruitment remained steady.
 
You act like there aren't any homos in Texas. Austin and Dallas are like gay havens with great chicken wings.

Gay rednecks are freaking awesome. They have the best looking pickups and gun racks!
 
You can't claim that they have all kinds of demands, then waffle. Your position is illogical and you are relying on the slippery slope fallacy to support it. Logic fail.

No you are twisting what I say and taking it out of context
 
I explained I served

You are getting even further from addressing the simple question I asked. Let me try again. Is being allowed to marry the person of their choice a special privilege? Is being allowed to serve their country like any one else a special privilege? Is being allowed to own property, enter into a lease, hold a job like any one else a special privilege?
 
They are demanding to be seen as normal. That will not happen and they can not make laws to force people to accept their lifestyle.

They are normal, to me and many others. You and some others are the ones who don't see them as normal. Normality is relative. I was somewhat normal within the group of those I worked with in the military, nukes. I, like many other nukes, however, were far from normal in the eyes of many, many other sailors. Nukes are generally geeks and nerds.

They are not demanding that someone accepts their lifestyle. They are demanding that they be treated fairly. You don't have to accept that a guy likes other guys, but if you're in the military, you should certainly be expected to tolerate it. The military makes people who don't accept guys who date fat chicks or girls who date outside their race accept such relationships as allowed by the military. It doesn't matter how many people don't consider such relationships as normal.
 
I do keep it to myself. Where I have I mentioned it?

So you have never attended a military function with a girlfriend/wife? You have not told the military that you are married, if you are? You have never once mentioned a girlfriend/wife to any other person you worked with? You can do these things in the military you know. It is acceptable if you are heterosexual.
 
It appears they are succeding since DADT and gay marriage have become big political issues

As they should be. They are not being treated fairly in either situation.

Still doesn't show them asking for special treatment.
 
I wonder how many experienced outdoorsy young recruits, the type that tend to flourish in the military, will choose not to join now?

San Francisco isn't exactly teaming with gun enthusiasts. LOL

There are plenty of people waiting in line to join or sign back up now. I don't think recruiting will really be an issue in this economy.
 
And you're not doing the same thing?

No I believe a few will cause problems. This will endanger some of our soldiers. Even Gates admits there will be problems in the change for a time
 
No, they are asking to be treated the same as others under the law. Completely different.

No they are forcing us to accept their life style and be seen as normal. Adopting,marriage DADT is all part of it
 
No I believe a few will cause problems. This will endanger some of our soldiers. Even Gates admits there will be problems in the change for a time

So the solution to that is to not let LGBT soldiers serve openly? The majority of the soldiers do not care, and there are already rules in place to prevent any fraternization problems that may occur.
 
You're the one who seems to think that all openly gay personnel will hit on people they work with, even some straight guys. I said that I am sure that not all of them will, although some of them most likely will. I am not the one stereotyping here.


Not all but some will. Others will have to tell about their love life. Others will say and do nothing to bring attention to them. I am not worried about all but some. I have a gay family member but she keeps it to herself.

You are stereotyping by comparing those you know will be how all gays will act. That is not how it will work. Just like not all blacks are pimps and drug dealers
 
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No they are forcing us to accept their life style and be seen as normal. Adopting,marriage DADT is all part of it

No, being given the same rights, and opportunities under the law is not forcing you to accept me as normal. No matter how much you want to pretend that it is.
 
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