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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yep seems the ones that are most vocal about getting "the right to serve" are those least likely to want to serve.
    Not that it matters, that's quite a leap.

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It will cause problems in the ranks which will hurt the trust factor needed to do their job
    Couldn't just say no? Are do you suggest men can't do what women do regularly?

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Okay seriously, it's time to repeal this thing now. And the term being openly gay, doesn't mean that their going to flirt with their fellow soldiers, or try to play grab ass with them. There going to act the same they are now, except that they can live their personal live just like every other straight solider can, and not live in fear of being discharged for going on a date, or having a family.

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Okay seriously, it's time to repeal this thing now. And the term being openly gay, doesn't mean that their going to flirt with their fellow soldiers, or try to play grab ass with them. There going to act the same they are now, except that they can live their personal live just like every other straight solider can, and not live in fear of being discharged for going on a date, or having a family.
    which is what I've been saying all along. the flaming, assless pants wearing "queers" are not going to join the military any way. The chances of a straight guy being hit on or accosted in the shower by a gay dude are remote. very little chance of you waking up in the middle of the night to find PVT Puffsalot with your junk in his mouth.

    I think most people would be surpirsed to know just how many gay people are "secretly" serving under DADT as it is.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Men don't run to the CO because a fellow man hit on them in the shower and continues to do it. Go ahead and ask me why.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah, they beat the **** out of him and he gets the message. either way...problem solved.
    Actually, that solves exactly no problems. It's juvenile and retarded.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    go ahead and repeal DADT. just because you can serve openly as gay, doesn't mean you have to. as long as you don't stand in the corner of the shower eyeing my junk and soaping yourself, I could care less. and that probably wouldn't even bother me. Just don't get your feelings hurt when you do something lame/weak or sissified and I call you gay. I think in most cases it is a non-issue. The kind of gay who will join the military is not typically going to be the flamer who wants to give blowjobs to every guy in the shower.
    This is the basic truth. The experiences from other militaries where gays are allowed to serve openly is that most don't go out of their way to reveal their orientation(see RAND study a few years back, can dig out link if needed). The limp wristed sissy gay guy is probably not going to join the military, and if they do, probably won't make it. Most gays are not like that, and can serve with no problem. In fact, most gays realize that strait people can be uncomfortable around them and try and make it a point to avoid doing things to offend or make others feel uncomfortable.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    We have heard many people (both on this board and in Congress) urging that we don't repeal DADT until the results of this study were in, and not unless it showed that the military approved. Now the results ARE in. Will they finally change their minds?
    I was one of those people. I supported removal of it rhetorically, but practically, I wanted internal studies to be finished rather than thinking it was a good idea to just move in before researching. When the results came in, I only worried about Army and Marine reactions, which still seem to be more against the repeal. That being said, this is a positive development for supporters of repeal.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually, that solves exactly no problems. It's juvenile and retarded.
    if you are a guy and another guy is bothering you and you ask/tell him to stop and he doesn't....don't cry to daddy. MAKE him stop.

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    I'm gonna delve into a not very constructive argument for a moment. Why do homophobic straight guys always think gays are going to hit on them, touch them, or rape them? Do you do that to women you want? Do women do that to you? Do you see some insanely high incidence of rape in the homosexual community? The fear seems to be unwanted sexual advances from homosexuals towards heterosexuals.

    Let me ask you this. How often do you hit on, molest, or rape lesbians? Cuz that's exactly how much of that you'll see from gay soldiers.

    Homosexuals are attracted to OTHER homosexuals, not all males. All of this fear of gays in the midst of heteros is an absurd fear.
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