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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your blog source uses WND to support it's claim.
    So what that does not make it wrong. This shows me you have no answer. The GLSEN has great influence over what is taught in public schools

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Immoral is a personal judgment, not objective. You are a veteran, which is also not normal in that most people are not.
    I disagree. I would say there are many more veterns than gays

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    what is to believe otherwise. Homosexuality is an abomination to God.
    Since God doesn't exist, problem solved. But if he did exist, he could get over it.

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Me and the Bible
    Well, since your opinon is worthless, and the Bible is about morality and not evidence, you have nothing. Good to know.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    merits aside, it is common perception that unless congress acts in THIS lame duck, dadt is doa under the new house delegation

    that is, leadership needs to act NOW or NEVER if this matter is to be resolved outside the courts, the president's repeatedly professed preference

    fortunately or unfortunately, leadership here, as elsewhere, is lacking

    On World AIDS Day, the man who first sounded the alarm about the AIDS epidemic and shamed the government into action for a decade, had some choice words for President Obama. In an interview with the New York Daily News about growing older with HIV, Kramer, now 75 and writing a novel about America and AIDS, offered up his views on the current president.

    “Mr. Do-Nothing Obama will say today ‘Lets think of all the poor dead people’- or ‘let’s honor all the dead’ instead of fighting for the living. "He has been really useless in terms of both HIV and gay issues. An exceedingly large disappointment to me, how useless he has been. He is simply not a leader. He may be president, but he is not a leader.”
    On World AIDS Day, Larry Kramer, who first warned of epidemic, rips 'Do-nothing' Obama

    do you disagree?

    either way, it's doa, as mitch mcconnell, on behalf of all 42 united, today declared in writing ALL legislation LAME until congress deals with its exigent responsibilities

    ie, resolution on the 2011 income tax and continuance of the various appropriations, which expire december 3, required to keep the govt operating, after congressional leadership inexplicably punted, offering NO BUDGET resolution for 2011

    NationalJournal.com - GOP Will Filibuster All Bills if Taxes, Budget Not Addressed - Wednesday, December 1, 2010

    Dems won

    finally, i hope it is not wandering too far afield here to note, today being AIDS day, that george w what's-his-name, say what you will about him, was a model of compassion, concern and caring when it came to this scariest of scourges

    Rock star Bono praises Bush for AIDS plans

    indeed, george w, if you look at him dispassionately, may be recognized as, perhaps, one of the leaders in all world history when it comes to combatting hiv

    and he acted upon his humanity, if i recall correctly, with pretty much universal support from republicans across the country

    stay up

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is immoral and not normal
    Well, since morality is relative, what you define as immoral is irrelevant.

    And... how about defining normal for us... oh, wait, we know what happened the LAST time you tried that.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Your statement is incorrect. First of all, there is no psychiatric or scientific evidence to back up your claim that homosexuality is 'not normal'. Basically, you are operating on nothing but opinion. That's all well and good until you have to make a case for it in the public realm, in which case it must be proven. Since there is no scientific research which unequivocally demonstrates that homosexuals as a group are any more normal or abnormal than their heterosexual counterparts, then we can safely say that your opinion is false.

    Regarding your immorality argument, that's bunk - plain and simply. You can arbitrarily choose whatever you think is moral or immoral, but others can certainly disagree with you. I personally think that folks who demonize and belittle homosexuals based on nothing else besides their sexual orientation are immoral.
    I don't believe gays meet this definition

    normal - Definition of normal at YourDictionary.com

    conforming with or constituting an accepted standard, model, or pattern; esp., corresponding to the median or average of a large group in type, appearance, achievement, function, development, etc.; natural; usual; standard; regular

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Since God doesn't exist, problem solved. But if he did exist, he could get over it.
    In your opinion

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That is why GLSEN is helping to teach it to the children

    http://www.dakotavoice.com/2007/02/o...homosexuality/
    Please quote the passage that demonstrates that homosexuality is being taught in schools.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Well, since your opinon is worthless, and the Bible is about morality and not evidence, you have nothing. Good to know.
    How is it a mod can call a member worthless

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