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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You can't claim that they have all kinds of demands, then waffle. Your position is illogical and you are relying on the slippery slope fallacy to support it. Logic fail.
    No you are twisting what I say and taking it out of context

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I explained I served
    You are getting even further from addressing the simple question I asked. Let me try again. Is being allowed to marry the person of their choice a special privilege? Is being allowed to serve their country like any one else a special privilege? Is being allowed to own property, enter into a lease, hold a job like any one else a special privilege?
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No you are twisting what I say and taking it out of context
    No, you're just making false claims, and illogical arguments.

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If you're married by a notary, it's a civil ceremony.
    Yet Bible verses were still used to our surprise. That made it a religious ceremony

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    But when you stereotype gays/lesbians as horny idiots who can't keep their pants on while under fire, it's fine.
    I have not said that. I am sure there will be a few that do what I predict

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    They are demanding to be seen as normal. That will not happen and they can not make laws to force people to accept their lifestyle.
    They are normal, to me and many others. You and some others are the ones who don't see them as normal. Normality is relative. I was somewhat normal within the group of those I worked with in the military, nukes. I, like many other nukes, however, were far from normal in the eyes of many, many other sailors. Nukes are generally geeks and nerds.

    They are not demanding that someone accepts their lifestyle. They are demanding that they be treated fairly. You don't have to accept that a guy likes other guys, but if you're in the military, you should certainly be expected to tolerate it. The military makes people who don't accept guys who date fat chicks or girls who date outside their race accept such relationships as allowed by the military. It doesn't matter how many people don't consider such relationships as normal.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Again does not address what I said in any way, shape, or form.
    It does address it just not the way you want it addressed

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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It does address it just not the way you want it addressed
    You mean coherently?
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I do keep it to myself. Where I have I mentioned it?
    So you have never attended a military function with a girlfriend/wife? You have not told the military that you are married, if you are? You have never once mentioned a girlfriend/wife to any other person you worked with? You can do these things in the military you know. It is acceptable if you are heterosexual.
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    Re: Pentagon: Letting openly gay troops serve won't hurt military

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It appears they are succeding since DADT and gay marriage have become big political issues
    As they should be. They are not being treated fairly in either situation.

    Still doesn't show them asking for special treatment.
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