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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Basically, the leftist position is that in the new multicultural America, white people aren't entitled to have an identity which offends non-whites in the slightest manner. Screw multicultural America. I hope it fails.

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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Basically, the leftist position is that in the new multicultural America, white people aren't entitled to have an identity which offends non-whites in the slightest manner. Screw multicultural America. I hope it fails.
    That has to be one of the most partisan, stupid comments I have ever seen.

    It's like whites getting angry over something like "black history month." They say things like "why don't we have a white history month." You have to remind them it is celebrated all year as Western Civilization class.
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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    ATLANTA — The Civil War, the most wrenching and bloody episode in American history, may not seem like much of a cause for celebration, especially in the South.

    And yet, as the 150th anniversary of the four-year conflict gets under way, some groups in the old Confederacy are planning at least a certain amount of hoopla, chiefly around the glory days of secession, when 11 states declared their sovereignty under a banner of states’ rights and broke from the union.

    The events include a “secession ball” in the former slave port of Charleston (“a joyous night of music, dancing, food and drink,” says the invitation), which will be replicated on a smaller scale in other cities.
    - NYT: South celebrates Civil War, without slaves - U.S. news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

    I don't think it's a big deal but, how can you "celebrate" the "Civil War" without mentioning one of it's main causes?
    You mean............northern aggression?
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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No, it does not.



    We are talking about the South, not the North. Lincoln maintained it was not about slavery for the North, and it was not in the Northern States.
    Huh? I'm not arguing one way or the other on the cause of the war, but you are wrong about the excerpt that HD quoted. It's plain English, no nuances there.
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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That has to be one of the most partisan, stupid comments I have ever seen.

    It's like whites getting angry over something like "black history month." They say things like "why don't we have a white history month." You have to remind them it is celebrated all year as Western Civilization class.
    I like your analogy but I have to disagree. I'm white and whenever I indicate I'm all fine with multiculturalism.......as long as I can keep mine "ozarks" I, generally, get lambasted and, usually, called a racist. It's tedious. I'm tired of it. Just because I'm white doesn't mean I have to adopt the cultural mores of my upper class white liberal "northeast and west coast" bretheren.
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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    It's going to be a hell of a racial mess when the hispanics final gain the majority. Who will be blamed then?
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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I like your analogy but I have to disagree. I'm white and whenever I indicate I'm all fine with multiculturalism.......as long as I can keep mine "ozarks" I, generally, get lambasted and, usually, called a racist. It's tedious. I'm tired of it. Just because I'm white doesn't mean I have to adopt the cultural mores of my upper class white liberal "northeast and west coast" bretheren.
    Ironically, if you've travelled the country, racism is far more rooted and institutionalized in the northeast than in the south. It just isn't talked about because nobody talks to anyone up there. Boston is the worst.

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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's going to be a hell of a racial mess when the hispanics final gain the majority. Who will be blamed then?
    Oh, the usual suspects, working whites.
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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ironically, if you've travelled the country, racism is far more rooted and institutionalized in the northeast than in the south. It just isn't talked about because nobody talks to anyone up there. Boston is the worst.
    I have traveled. I don't know about institutionalized but, yeah, race relations up north aren't worth a damn. Having said that I'm thinking race relations seem to have taken a hit since we elected our great "post racial president" ironic that.
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    Re: South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Huh? I'm not arguing one way or the other on the cause of the war, but you are wrong about the excerpt that HD quoted. It's plain English, no nuances there.
    Lincoln wanted to preserve the union, he knew if he said slavery had to go it was over. He was trying to avoid the split. It was about primarily slavery from the perspective of the Southern states.
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