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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So let me get this straight... The most shining example in our time of a truly free press, unfettered by politics... and we want them labelled as terrorists? This, right here, is the death of liberty. This is EXACTLY what the free press is for. To be the watchdogs and keep the public informed of the actions of otherwise secretive governments. The press is not here to be pundits, nor to give us their opinions, nor to bash political leaders, nor to use our lust for drama and blood to turn a buck. They are here to keep an eye on the powerful, and ensure that we are capable of holding them accountable.

    These WikiLeakers are courageous and doing more to protect liberty than most anyone else in the world.
    This is bull****. If the WikiLeakers really were as courageous as you say, then why haven't they done any dumps of leaks on the People's Republic of China, the Russian Federation, the European Union, or even African countries on the level that they've done from leaks from the United States?

    WikiLeaks says that they exist to fight oppression, but while I know that the United States is by far not the best nation in the world, I know for certainty it is not the most oppressive by far.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    This is bull****. If the WikiLeakers really were as courageous as you say, then why haven't they done any dumps of leaks on the People's Republic of China, the Russian Federation, the European Union, or even African countries on the level that they've done from leaks from the United States?

    WikiLeaks says that they exist to fight oppression, but while I know that the United States is by far not the best nation in the world, I know for certainty it is not the most oppressive by far.
    Why don't you find the country that "by far" is the best and go there?
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So let me get this straight... The most shining example in our time of a truly free press, unfettered by politics... and we want them labelled as terrorists? This, right here, is the death of liberty. This is EXACTLY what the free press is for. To be the watchdogs and keep the public informed of the actions of otherwise secretive governments. The press is not here to be pundits, nor to give us their opinions, nor to bash political leaders, nor to use our lust for drama and blood to turn a buck. They are here to keep an eye on the powerful, and ensure that we are capable of holding them accountable.

    These WikiLeakers are courageous and doing more to protect liberty than most anyone else in the world.
    What they did is illegal. That is not a standard we should praise.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What they did is illegal. That is not a standard we should praise.
    That's very authoratative. I do not believe it is universally true. For instance, what the founding fathers did was illegal. Treason even. But I think it's very praise worthy.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What they did is illegal. That is not a standard we should praise.
    Illegal according to what jurisdiction of the law?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why don't you find the country that "by far" is the best and go there?
    I would if it existed.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And those who actually know how to read would know the arrest warrant isn't for what he's done with Wikileaks.
    I was responding to what you said, not about the arrest warrant. That wasn't under discussion nor it the subject of this debate.

    This is what you said.

    "Publishing crap didn't do anything to them. Let's be honest about this. They're in harms way because of our aggressive, interventionist, state-building policies. Not because some d-bag put some **** on the internet".

    That's what i was responding to. No further red herrings please.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Illegal according to what jurisdiction of the law?

    Espionage.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's very authoratative. I do not believe it is universally true. For instance, what the founding fathers did was illegal. Treason even. But I think it's very praise worthy.
    The founders had documented grievences for the previous 20 years; Assange and Wikileaks are bunch of criminals. They're completely different. Manning needs to be shot by a firing squad.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I would if it existed.
    Then you statement was false.
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