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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You're implying he was Fed Exing it to some caves in Pakistan...
    I wasn't "implying" any such thing. Read what I write, not what you think i write.

    The fact is that the enemy of the democracies now are aware of secret information and these guys gave it to them. It's not a game.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    So let me get this straight... The most shining example in our time of a truly free press, unfettered by politics... and we want them labelled as terrorists? This, right here, is the death of liberty. This is EXACTLY what the free press is for. To be the watchdogs and keep the public informed of the actions of otherwise secretive governments. The press is not here to be pundits, nor to give us their opinions, nor to bash political leaders, nor to use our lust for drama and blood to turn a buck. They are here to keep an eye on the powerful, and ensure that we are capable of holding them accountable.

    These WikiLeakers are courageous and doing more to protect liberty than most anyone else in the world.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

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    So let me get this straight... The most shining example in our time of a truly free press, unfettered by politics... and we want them labelled as terrorists? This, right here, is the death of liberty.
    There have always been secrets in war time. It is not an issue of a free press but a responsible press. And this is international where much of the media is not free and thus they hear only one side.

    This is EXACTLY what the free press is for. To be the watchdogs and keep the public informed of the actions of otherwise secretive governments.
    Domestically perhaps, but it was never intended to be used for enemies of the state and to put lives at risk. No one's lives are enriched by this knowledge, It can only harm.

    The press is not here to be pundits, nor to give us their opinions, nor to bash political leaders, nor to use our lust for drama and blood to turn a buck. They are here to keep an eye on the powerful, and ensure that we are capable of holding them accountable.
    That is clearly untrue, at least as far as the real world is concerned.
    These WikiLeakers are courageous and doing more to protect liberty than most anyone else in the world.
    Whose liberty are they protecting?

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So let me get this straight... The most shining example in our time of a truly free press, unfettered by politics... and we want them labelled as terrorists? This, right here, is the death of liberty. This is EXACTLY what the free press is for. To be the watchdogs and keep the public informed of the actions of otherwise secretive governments. The press is not here to be pundits, nor to give us their opinions, nor to bash political leaders, nor to use our lust for drama and blood to turn a buck. They are here to keep an eye on the powerful, and ensure that we are capable of holding them accountable.

    These WikiLeakers are courageous and doing more to protect liberty than most anyone else in the world.

    And of the people that will be killed because of the publishing of these oh so patriotic entries? What about them?


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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And of the people that will be killed because of the publishing of these oh so patriotic entries? What about them?


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    Publishing crap didn't do anything to them. Let's be honest about this. They're in harms way because of our aggressive, interventionist, state-building policies. Not because some d-bag put some **** on the internet.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Publishing crap didn't do anything to them. Let's be honest about this. They're in harms way because of our aggressive, interventionist, state-building policies. Not because some d-bag put some **** on the internet.

    Well, here we have the chicken and the egg don't we....here is where I say that their identity wouldn't be known to the dirtbags that will now kill them for their helping us.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, here we have the chicken and the egg don't we....here is where I say that their identity wouldn't be known to the dirtbags that will now kill them for their helping us.

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    And here is where I say that you have no way of knowing if anyone will be killed due to these leaks. You assume that there will be. Do you know what happens when a person "assume's" something?
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, here we have the chicken and the egg don't we....here is where I say that their identity wouldn't be known to the dirtbags that will now kill them for their helping us.

    j-mac
    No, there's no chicken and the egg. The wars have been going on for far longer than Wikileaks has been in existence. In fact, the length of the wars and incompetence of the leadership is what gave birth to Wikileaks. The fact remains that it's not Wikileaks who put these people in danger, it's our own aggressive and interventionist policies which have not only put those people in danger, but gave rise to Wikileaks itself. There's nothing which has been released yet which can be proven to have cost "lives".
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Publishing crap didn't do anything to them. Let's be honest about this. They're in harms way because of our aggressive, interventionist, state-building policies. Not because some d-bag put some **** on the internet.
    Others who actually know what's going on disagree.

    Arrest warrant for WikiLeaks chief as chaos spreads - Yahoo! Canada News

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Others who actually know what's going on disagree.

    Arrest warrant for WikiLeaks chief as chaos spreads - Yahoo! Canada News
    And those who actually know how to read would know the arrest warrant isn't for what he's done with Wikileaks.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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