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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

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    Hopefully Obama will ignore such a psychotic suggestion.
    I'd like to get Congress officially designated as a terrorist organization.

    hehehe

    But I hope this dude doesn't get his way. I don't think wikileaks comes close to satisfying the definition of "terrorist".
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'd like to get Congress officially designated as a terrorist organization.

    hehehe

    Sweet! LOL


    But I hope this dude doesn't get his way. I don't think wikileaks comes close to satisfying the definition of "terrorist".
    Well, if he is aiding them knowingly. And if his stance is that he just doesn't care if it does, it is at least negligence.


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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, if he is aiding them knowingly. And if his stance is that he just doesn't care if it does, it is at least negligence.


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    Maybe that. I mean, one could certainly make the argument for some form of wrong doing here. It's just not terrorism. Terror is not being used to manipulate people and force them into conceding some amount of political gain. It's information and nothing more. And that's hardly terrifying. Well I guess unless you're the US government. Then you're apparently ****ting yourself. I wonder why they're so freaked out? Kinda makes me wish we knew the whole story.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Terrorism- the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear

    just so were all clear... clearly Wikileaks does not fall into this category. Weather or not someone uses the information for illegal/harmful purposes is not the fault of wikileaks. If a newspaper reports on a political rally that is going to take place, and then on the day of the rally there were a terrorist attack, that is not the fault of the newspaper, even if the terrorists got the information of where/when the rally was going to be, from the newspaper.

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Benjamin Franklin

    it may be a difference of opinion, but i would rather know everything i can with the knowledge that there may be others out there who would use that information to harm me, then know nothing and trust our highly fallible government to follow its own moral compass.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Maybe that. I mean, one could certainly make the argument for some form of wrong doing here. It's just not terrorism. Terror is not being used to manipulate people and force them into conceding some amount of political gain. It's information and nothing more. And that's hardly terrifying. Well I guess unless you're the US government. Then you're apparently ****ting yourself. I wonder why they're so freaked out? Kinda makes me wish we knew the whole story.
    No I don't think it is terrorism in the classic sense. But rather a softer terrorism directed at the governments involved in the world that this man disagrees with ideologically. He is using these dumps as attention grabbing events, and probably enjoying his rescue from obscurity in the headlines.

    Assange plays a dangerous game where if he pisses off the wrong people, he could be capped by morning.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No I don't think it is terrorism in the classic sense. But rather a softer terrorism directed at the governments involved in the world that this man disagrees with ideologically. He is using these dumps as attention grabbing events, and probably enjoying his rescue from obscurity in the headlines.

    Assange plays a dangerous game where if he pisses off the wrong people, he could be capped by morning.

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    Well then it's not so much terrorism as it is political protest. As I said, there's no movement to instill terror anywhere. He's not using fear as a prime motivator. Maybe he wants some time in the sun, maybe he just wants people to know. Whatever the reason, what's been presented to us is data, and that's it. Perhaps he plays a dangerous game and could be capped. But that would only raise further questions. As to what he found out and why the government would be so scared of it that they'd have to cap him.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well then it's not so much terrorism as it is political protest. As I said, there's no movement to instill terror anywhere. He's not using fear as a prime motivator. Maybe he wants some time in the sun, maybe he just wants people to know. Whatever the reason, what's been presented to us is data, and that's it. Perhaps he plays a dangerous game and could be capped. But that would only raise further questions. As to what he found out and why the government would be so scared of it that they'd have to cap him.

    Well, we aren't to far apart on the first part of your response here, however, as to the questions it would raise would only be in the minds of those who see some utopia of total open and honest government, that sir is a pipe dream as long as self interest is involved.

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, we aren't to far apart on the first part of your response here, however, as to the questions it would raise would only be in the minds of those who see some utopia of total open and honest government, that sir is a pipe dream as long as self interest is involved.

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    I'm not looking for total open and honest government. In fact, you can never have honest government, they're contradictory. However, what I do want is accountability and restriction. And to gain those, I need to have the proper information. Which is why I wouldn't run off to say this guy should be capped. I think if he where, there are a lot of questions then raised. Like why was he such a threat he had to be killed? What did he know? What did the government do? Because if the government is going to behave so fearfully that this particular information is out, there is probably a reason for it. And that reason, given that it is government, is most likely because of some misuse of power.

    In order to hold accountability and restriction to government in order to properly keep the chains of constraint upon the government, we have to know things.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    What I am worried about is that even if they do not go the step of designating them terrorists it may lead to a law that provides for the same measures using a different term.
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    Re: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group

    Some government leaders better fit this description of terrorists. If they are this concerned about these inconsequential "secrets", makes me wonder what else they're hiding from us. As the public of the United States, all of this information should be open to us anyways.

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