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    US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    The United States was catapulted into a worldwide diplomatic crisis today, with the leaking to the Guardian and other international media of more than 250,000 classified cables from its embassies, many sent as recently as February this year.

    At the start of a series of daily extracts from the US embassy cables - many of which are designated "secret" – the Guardian can disclose that Arab leaders are privately urging an air strike on Iran and that US officials have been instructed to spy on the UN's leadership.

    These two revelations alone would be likely to reverberate around the world. But the secret dispatches which were obtained by WikiLeaks, the whistlebowers' website, also reveal Washington's evaluation of many other highly sensitive international issues.

    These include a major shift in relations between China and North Korea, Pakistan's growing instability and details of clandestine US efforts to combat al-Qaida in Yemen.
    US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis | World news | guardian.co.uk

    Read the whole article, there's a ****-ton of LOL in it -- especially the part where the State Department said that the reason this kind of a leak could happen was 9/11.

    I guess we're supposed to accept that as a valid excuse, despite the fact that the government has had 9+ years to figure this stuff out.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Cables Shine Light Into Secret Diplomatic Channels

    A cache of a quarter-million confidential American diplomatic cables, most of them from the past three years, provides an unprecedented look at backroom bargaining by embassies around the world, brutally candid views of foreign leaders and frank assessments of nuclear and terrorist threats.

    Some of the cables, made available to The New York Times and several other news organizations, were written as recently as late February, revealing the Obama administration’s exchanges over crises and conflicts. The material was originally obtained by WikiLeaks, an organization devoted to revealing secret documents. WikiLeaks intends to make the archive public on its Web site in batches, beginning Sunday.
    Source: The New York Times

    Some of the things they mention are rather juicy.
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    I love some of the comments at the bottom.

    And I totally lol'd at this part:

    When the Guardian put this allegation to Crowley, the state department spokesman said: "Let me assure you: our diplomats are just that, diplomats. They do not engage in intelligence activities. They represent our country around the world, maintain open and transparent contact with other governments as well as public and private figures, and report home. That's what diplomats have done for hundreds of years."
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I love some of the comments at the bottom.

    And I totally lol'd at this part:



    Yeah, sure, okay. whatever you say dood.
    What? Were you expecting the truth?
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    As I posted yesterday Obama could at any point shut down this Enemy of the United States and the West at any minute.

    Why has he not ordered shutting it down?

    Could it be that he is secretly enjoying seeing this information leaking out all the time?

    We know it has to involve someone pretty high up in the Administration or Government higher than a Pfc. or the information would be much more limited in scope.

    A Pfc. Bradley Manning is accused of leaking diplomatic cables and other classified documents to WikiLeaks, and if this is true how does he have access to such a wide variety of information.

    If President Bush were allowing this to go on when we know the ability to stop it is only a few key strokes away the Anti-American, blame America "Firsters" would be screaming for his head on a platter.

    If this is and I believe it is putting lives at risk and it it does cause anyone to die who ever is behind and or involved in any way are guilty of treason and should face the death penalty regardless of who the hell it is or how high it goes.

    I believe that since Julian Assange Wikileaks founder has said he wants to bring down America I see this SOB as a legitimate target just like any we have gone after with the Predator in the past.

    I also see anyone who supports and or defends him as an enemy who should be dealt with with any and all the force available.

    In light of the knowledge this could have all been prevented Obama's protests are hollow window dressing at best.

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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    If the Wikileaks info is supposed to surprise me, colour me unimpressed. There appears to be nothing here that will have long term consequences.
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    If the Wikileaks info is supposed to surprise me, colour me unimpressed. There appears to be nothing here that will have long term consequences.
    If it costs someone their life does that possibly qualify as a long term consequence, or does it depend on if they are personally known to to you or maybe a family member?

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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Many more cables name diplomats’ confidential sources, from foreign legislators and military officers to human rights activists and journalists, often with a warning to Washington: “Please protect” or “Strictly protect.”

    The Times has withheld from articles and removed from documents it is posting online the names of some people who spoke privately to diplomats and might be at risk if they were publicly identified. The Times is also withholding some passages or entire cables whose disclosure could compromise American intelligence efforts.
    I'm sure that foreign newspapers and wikileaks will be similarly circumspect.
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As I posted yesterday Obama could at any point shut down this Enemy of the United States and the West at any minute.

    Why has he not ordered shutting it down?
    And how exactly can he do this? The website is not on a US server and is run by non-American's... how exactly can he do anything. Block it from the eyes of American's? 1st amendment anyone? Funny how a conservative is for censorship all of a sudden.

    Saying that, the website in question was attacked with DOS (Denial of service) attack so someone did try to at least hurt the site. They were not successful.. guess it was not the Russians or Chinese.

    Could it be that he is secretly enjoying seeing this information leaking out all the time?
    And why should be enjoying watching his country being the laughing stock of the world? Or maybe it is your hyper-partisan attitude shining through again? Then again most of it was pretty much common knowledge and is only being confirmed.

    We know it has to involve someone pretty high up in the Administration or Government higher than a Pfc. or the information would be much more limited in scope.

    A Pfc. Bradley Manning is accused of leaking diplomatic cables and other classified documents to WikiLeaks, and if this is true how does he have access to such a wide variety of information.
    No it does not. After 9/11 the information sharing between the many many many US government organisations was pushed, since as everyone knows.. if these agencies had actually shared information, then 9/11 could have been prevented. Now one of the drawbacks is that many people will have access to such things, including a Pfc from Army Intelligence. I am guessing that the real fall out from this will be the walls that Bush and his government broke down after 9/11 will go up again and the FBI and CIA and so on wont talk to each other. On the bright side for you conservative types, no need for the Department of Homeland Security then! Money saver! You should be thanking this guy then.. saving you a ton of money!

    If President Bush were allowing this to go on when we know the ability to stop it is only a few key strokes away the Anti-American, blame America "Firsters" would be screaming for his head on a platter.
    Err the information sharing was started by Bush ... It was Bush policies that made it possible for this to happen, and of course supposedly preventing many attacks. Cant have it both ways..

    If this is and I believe it is putting lives at risk and it it does cause anyone to die who ever is behind and or involved in any way are guilty of treason and should face the death penalty regardless of who the hell it is or how high it goes.
    You mean any American of course. Treason cant be placed on non-American's..

    I believe that since Julian Assange Wikileaks founder has said he wants to bring down America I see this SOB as a legitimate target just like any we have gone after with the Predator in the past.
    You believe wrong.. not a shocker, but you do. At worst he has said he wants open government.

    I also see anyone who supports and or defends him as an enemy who should be dealt with with any and all the force available.
    LOL, so you are saying that Comcast and every ISP, every computer maker and so on are "enemy of the state" because they are helping wikileaks? So when are you gonna stop using your ISP since it allows you access to the site or sites that use the information.. have you stopped watching Fox News btw since they are now by your definition also traitors by even mentioning the story.

    In light of the knowledge this could have all been prevented Obama's protests are hollow window dressing at best.
    Again this has very little to do with Obama, since he did not put in place the policies that made it possible. Your hyperpartisanship has blinded you.
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