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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    The newspapers and websites that publish this should be shut down. They are sharing illegally obtained information that is internationally important to the US. The owner of wikileaks should either be jailed or assassinated.
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The newspapers and websites that publish this should be shut down. They are sharing illegally obtained information that is internationally important to the US. The owner of wikileaks should either be jailed or assassinated.
    so you want censorship
    where only what is published meets with the approval of the government
    you are willing to kill to achieve that end

    why is this any different than was imposed by the nazis and communists?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so you want censorship
    where only what is published meets with the approval of the government
    you are willing to kill to achieve that end

    why is this any different than was imposed by the nazis and communists?
    No, I don't feel people have the right to steal and publish, especially when it is internationally damaging information. Would it be censorship to keep someone from stealing your information and preventing them from publishing it all over the world?
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The newspapers and websites that publish this should be shut down. They are sharing illegally obtained information that is internationally important to the US. The owner of wikileaks should either be jailed or assassinated.


    So censorship basically? The Government exerting its will and stopping free press?
    Oh and US is welcome to remove its own First Amendment. It has no authority over the rest of the world.

    Tut tut Saudi Arabia, turning on your fellow Muslim countries. Iran isn't going to be happy with you

    Come on, seriously. This Wikileaks is ****. I could have told you all of that.
    Arabs don't like Iran. US spying on everyone and anything (shock horror, a country using its intelligence agencies), China isn't happy with NK.

    I was hoping for something more interesting but no, all Saudi's do is bitch about the evil Persians who aren't Arab or Sunni. The devils!
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The newspapers and websites that publish this should be shut down. They are sharing illegally obtained information that is internationally important to the US.
    So... any newspaper or tv station or website that even remotely publish anything about this should be shut down? So no media or internet for any American's... nice. Of course the US cant do it for any newspaper, tv-station or website that is based outside the US... but hey!

    The owner of wikileaks should either be jailed or assassinated.
    Well since he is no where near the US, then it must mean you want to break US law and assassinate him...



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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Haha. I love US's descriptions of world leaders.

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy
    : ‘has a thin-skinned and authoritarian personal style’ and is an ‘emperor with no clothes’

    Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi
    : ‘feckless, vain and ineffective as a modern European leader’. He is a ‘physically and politically weak’ leader whose ‘frequent late nights and penchant for partying hard mean he does not get sufficient rest’

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev
    : ‘plays Robin to Putin’s Batman’ and is ‘pale and hesitant’

    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin
    : an ‘alpha dog’

    Chancellor Angela Merkel
    : ‘avoids risks and is rarely creative’

    Iranian President Mahmoud Amhadinejad
    : like ‘Hitler’

    Libyan leader Muammar Gadaffi
    : is ‘strange’ and ‘accompanied by voluptuous blonde Ukranian “nurse”’

    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan
    : governs with ‘a cabal of incompetent advisors’

    North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il
    : ‘flabby old chap’ who suffers from ‘physical and psychological trauma’

    Afghan president, Hamid Karzai
    : ‘driven by paranoia’ and ‘an extremely weak man who did not listen to facts but was instead easily swayed by anyone who came to report even the most bizarre stories or plots against him’

    Zimbabwean tyrant, Robert Mugabe
    : ‘the crazy old man’
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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The owner of wikileaks should either be jailed or assassinated.
    I will never cease to be entertained by the bolded sentiment. Let's break it down:

    From what does the government of the United States of America derive its authority? Depending on how pedantic you're feeling, it's either the Constitution or the will of the people as embodied by the Constitution -- but either way, the Constitution figures prominently.

    What does the Constitution have to say about assassinations? It says you can't be deprived of your life without due process.

    As such, it is illegal to assassinate someone just because you don't like what they're doing.

    My favorite counter to this most obvious of arguments: Well, if it happens off of American soil, it's not subject to American law, and therefore that restriction doesn't apply! Absolutely correct, of course. Now, instead of being a sanctioned agent of the US government, you're a thug and a murderer.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/wo...nted=2&_r=1&hp


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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    From the Guardian's story:


    At the start of a series of daily extracts from the US embassy cables – many designated "secret" – the Guardian can disclose that Arab leaders are privately urging an air strike on Iran and that US officials have been instructed to spy on the UN leadership. These two revelations alone would be likely to reverberate around the world. But the secret dispatches which were obtained by WikiLeaks, the whistleblowers' website, also reveal Washington's evaluation of many other highly sensitive international issues.

    These include a shift in relations between China and North Korea, high level concerns over Pakistan's growing instability and details of clandestine US efforts to combat al-Qaida in Yemen.

    Among scores of disclosures that are likely to cause uproar, the cables detail:

    • Grave fears in Washington and London over the security of Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme, with officials warning that as the country faces economic collapse, government employees could smuggle out enough nuclear material for terrorists to build a bomb.

    • Suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government, with one cable alleging that vice president Zia Massoud was carrying $52m in cash when he was stopped during a visit to the United Arab Emirates. Massoud denies taking money out of Afghanistan.

    • The extraordinarily close relationship between Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister, and Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, which is causing intense US suspicion. Cables detail allegations of "lavish gifts", lucrative energy contracts and the use by Berlusconi of a "shadowy" Russian-speaking Italian go-between.

    • Allegations that Russia and its intelligence agencies are using mafia bosses to carry out criminal operations, with one cable reporting that the relationship is so close that the country has become a "virtual mafia state".

    •  Devastating criticism of the UK's military operations in Afghanistan by US commanders, the Afghan president and local officials in Helmand. The dispatches reveal particular contempt for the failure to impose security around Sangin – the town which has claimed more British lives than any other in the country.
    I mean seriously.. is anyone actually surprised by any of this? All of these problems are easily identifiable from the public record...there is not much news in what has been released as far as I can tell so far.

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    Re: US embassy cables leak sparks global diplomacy crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The newspapers and websites that publish this should be shut down. They are sharing illegally obtained information that is internationally important to the US. The owner of wikileaks should either be jailed or assassinated.
    Ah yes another example of fascist anti-American conservative rhetoric. Calling for assassinations of anything they deem unacceptable.

    May this type of conservatism die out quickly and be sent to the back side of hell.

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