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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again the subject is hate speech laws. So leave your pro-homosexual bigotry at the door.
    You're confused. You should re-read the OP.
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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You're confused. You should re-read the OP.

    Why was the girl arrested? It was because of Britain's hate speech laws that dictate that if you piss off a protected class of people then you can be arrested. These hate speech laws in Britain will one day bite the British in the ass when their government decides that anti-war protests, protests against certian legslation and anti-government protests incite hatred towards the government and the military.
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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    She was arrested for burning the Koran, not because she said anything bad about teh gayz.
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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    She was arrested for burning the Koran, not because she said anything bad about teh gayz.
    She was arrested because of hate speech laws.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_sp...United_Kingdom
    On 20 April 2010, police arrested Dale McAlpine, a Christian preacher, of Workington in Cumbria, for saying that homosexual conduct was a sin. On 14 May 2010, the Crown decided not to prosecute McAlpine.[10]

    On 4 March 2010, a jury returned a verdict of guilty against Harry Taylor, who was charged under Part 4A of the Public Order Act 1986. Taylor was charged because he left anti-religious cartoons in the prayer-room of Liverpool's John Lennon Airport on three occasions in 2008. The airport chaplain, who was insulted, offended, and alarmed by the cartoons, called the police.[11][12][13] On 23 April 2010, Judge Charles James of Liverpool Crown Court sentenced Taylor to a six-month term of imprisonment suspended for two years, made him subject to a five-year Anti-Social Behaviour Order (ASBO) (which bans him from carrying religiously offensive material in a public place), ordered him to perform 100 hours of unpaid work, and ordered him to pay 250 costs. Taylor was convicted of similar offences in 2006.[14]

    On 8 December 2009, Mr Justice Richard Clancy, sitting at Liverpool Magistrates' Court, acquitted Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang, hoteliers, of charges under the Public Order Act 1986 and under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998. The Vogelensangs were charged after a guest at their hotel, Ericka Tazi, complained that the Vogelenzangs had insulted her after she appeared in a hijab.[15]

    On 2 September 2006, Stephen Green was arrested in Cardiff for distributing pamphlets which called sexual activity between members of the same sex a sin. On 28 September 2006, the Crown advised Cardiff Magistrates Court that it would not proceed with the prosecution.[16][17]

    On 13 October 2001, Harry Hammond, an evangelist, was arrested and charged under section 5 of the Public Order Act (1986) because he had displayed to people in Bournemouth a large sign bearing the words "Jesus Gives Peace, Jesus is Alive, Stop Immorality, Stop Homosexuality, Stop Lesbianism, Jesus is Lord". In April 2002, a magistrate convicted Hammond, fined him 300, and ordered him to pay costs of 395.[18][19][20]
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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    No, she was arrested because she burned the Koran.

    If she hadn't elected to burn the Koran she wouldn't have been arrested.

    The law in question is what she was charged with violating, but it's not the law's fault that she broke it.
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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, she was arrested because she burned the Koran.
    Which is under their hate speech laws.

    If she hadn't elected to burn the Koran she wouldn't have been arrested.
    So people should abide by unjust laws? So it was alright to arrest gays in the past because they elected to engage in homosexual behavior?


    The law in question is what she was charged with violating, but it's not the law's fault that she broke it.
    In the US such a law would be unconstitutional. If she was in the US she would be under no obligation to follow such a blatantly unconstitutional law.
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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    Anyone else see the part where it said she did it at school? Since when have you been allowed to burn any books at school or for that matter been allowed to instigate stuff against fellow students?

    Would a school ever allow a student to wear a KKK or nazi outfit? No, and for the same reason. Even though you are perfectly allowed to the school has rights to control its student body while on campus to ensure the preservation of a decent learning environment.

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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So people should abide by unjust laws? So it was alright to arrest gays in the past because they elected to engage in homosexual behavior?
    I don't have a problem with civil disobedience. I simply refuse to get all freaked out because someone intentionally broke the law, knowing that they were going to get busted for it, and then -- surprise surprise -- got busted for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    In the US such a law would be unconstitutional. If she was in the US she would be under no obligation to follow such a blatantly unconstitutional law.
    So what? How many times have Europeans who had the audacity to comment on goings-on in the United States been told to STFU simply because they're not American?
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    Re: Teen girl arrested for burning Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Anyone else see the part where it said she did it at school?
    Would she not have been arrested if she did this at home?

    Since when have you been allowed to burn any books at school or for that matter been allowed to instigate stuff against fellow students?
    If she burned books at school then that would call for suspension and possibly charged with arson and the destruction of school property assuming the Koran belonged to the school.

    Would a school ever allow a student to wear a KKK or nazi outfit?
    Would a student be arrested for wearing a KKK or nazi uniform in school? Maybe in eurotrash countries that do not value free speech, but not here in the US.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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