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DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

Well then don't we all sit back and await the future to unfold before we start celebrating it?

Who is celebrating other than out of staters who see this as an opportunity to divert from what is going on in their state and since liberals couldn't get DeLay at the ballot box they went after him in court.
 
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Are you going to apologize when the verdict is overturned? The law was changed in 2003 for an action that occurred in 2002. Explain why you care about something that happened in the state of TX, something that goes on in every state in the country but isn't a big deal, especially in NY, Illinois, California, or any other Democrat bastion.

you mean to ask am i going to accept the legal determination which has been established in a court of law

well, then, if that is what you want, why don't you practice it yourself and recognize that the guilty plea against the hammer is a valid one instead of killing off the remaining shreds of your credibility defending the indefensible
 
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Absolutely, how many times do I have to state that. When I am wrong I apologize, when a liberal is wrong they run and ignore it. Please tell me how Tom DeLay hurt you or anyone else outside of TX? The explain to me how redistricting caused Obama to lose the state by over a million votes? How Cornyn and Perry won in a landslide? This was a political witch hunt and I find it interesting that those outside of TX are posting with great glee activities that didn't affect them and is probably going on in their own state.
again, you seem to be confused, obama or the recent elections have nothing to do with what delay was convicted of....this is a smokescreen on your part, to try and muddy the waters, in your vain effort to defend what delay did.
 
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'Tom Delay was convicted of violating TX LAW'...yes, you are correct, indeed he was....great joy on my part? nah, not at all...great dissapointment in him? to quote Sarah Palin...'YOU BETCHA'....Sounds to me like he just got so full of himself that he didnt belive anything would come of his actions, and now he is just SHOCKED!! SHOCKED I TELL YA SHOCKED! that he was convicted. while i would hope he would serve some time for his actions, i seriously doubt he will get more than a slap on the wrist...the question was asked as to why you feel it necessary to strongly defend him...i'm curious to that myself...and you are correct, i'm not from texas, but i feel the people of the great state of texas deserve better, whether they be conservative, liberal, or anything in between.

I agree with much of what you stated however the people "of the great state of texas" continue to decide that this country is headed in the wrong direction and in spite of what DeLay was convicted of doing the state continues to overwhelmingly support Conservative principles. This is all about redistricting which had zero affect on the National elections for President and Senate. Overwhelmingly the state voted for Conservatives on Nov. 2 and continue to lead the nation in economic results. The joy that many experience because of the verdict is nothing more than a "gotcha" moment that means nothing on the national stage.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

again, you seem to be confused, obama or the recent elections have nothing to do with what delay was convicted of....this is a smokescreen on your part, to try and muddy the waters, in your vain effort to defend what delay did.

Right, and the election results show how insignificant this verdict was in the overall election process.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

I could ask you the same question, why do you feet it so necessary to strongly defend a conviction made on TX Law that was changed in Sept. 2003 to re-indict Tom DeLay for an action in 2002? Do you think that changing the law is appropriate to go back and prosecute someone for actions taken before the law was in place?

That was the conspiracy to violate election law charge. It was thrown out and upheld by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in '07

You don't seem to know very much about this case, do you? Seems as though you're just regurgitating what is spoon fed to you. Maybe you need to move a little closer to Austin...LOL...;)
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

you mean to ask am i going to accept the legal determination which has been established in a court of law

well, then, if that is what you want, why don't you practice it yourself and recognize that the guilty plea against the hammer is a valid one instead of killing off the remaining shreds of your credibility defending the indefensible

My credibility is boosted by the facts that I present. This case isn't over and will be overturned on appeal due to the fact that the law was changed in 2003 to prosecute an action that occurred in 2002. Someone like you that piles and simply doesn't like DeLay doesn't have a lot of room when it comes to credibility.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

I agree with much of what you stated however the people "of the great state of texas" continue to decide that this country is headed in the wrong direction and in spite of what DeLay was convicted of doing the state continues to overwhelmingly support Conservative principles. This is all about redistricting which had zero affect on the National elections for President and Senate. Overwhelmingly the state voted for Conservatives on Nov. 2 and continue to lead the nation in economic results. The joy that many experience because of the verdict is nothing more than a "gotcha" moment that means nothing on the national stage.
conservative, this thread has nothing to do with 'conservative values', national elecions, or anything for that matter that has to do with obama or the senate....all you are doing is spouting the same line over and over again, trying to make this thread about something its not, please stop, and debate the topic of the thread, which is delay and the verdict rendered against him..
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

That was the conspiracy to violate election law charge. It was thrown out and upheld by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in '07

You don't seem to know very much about this case, do you? Seems as though you're just regurgitating what is spoon fed to you. Maybe you need to move a little closer to Austin...LOL...;)

LOL, no, I prefer living where I live, but thanks for the recommendation. I stand by my claim and we shall see in the appeals process. This is a TX issue, not a national issue so tell me why you have so much passion and hatred for Tom DeLay? Looks to me like you may have been spoon fed some false information but your opinions formed by listening to the media.
 
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conservative, this thread has nothing to do with 'conservative values', national elecions, or anything for that matter that has to do with obama or the senate....all you are doing is spouting the same line over and over again, trying to make this thread about something its not, please stop, and debate the topic of the thread, which is delay and the verdict rendered against him..

It is all about conservative values, national elections as the results of what DeLay was convicted of doing had no affect on the national elections in this state therefore how did he as you stated in a previous post, "destroy the will of the people?"
 
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...How does what DeLay was convicted of doing affect you or anyone in your state?...

It was against the law. Why don't you believe in the rule of law.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

This is a TX issue, not a national issue


Just a reminder here from a 5th generation Texan, Delay was convicted by a jury of his peers fellow Texans.
 
Re: Ex-House Leader DeLay Found Guilty in Texas Case

It was against the law. Why don't you believe in the rule of law.

I believe in the rule of law and the entire process which includes the appeals process. Seems that liberals only believe in the process when the verdict is the one they want. When it isn't they go to court for a reversal
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

If you are right, and what happened to Delay has no impact on Texas politics, that indeed is a sad commentary on the state of your State.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

Just a reminder here from a 5th generation Texan, Delay was convicted by a jury of his peers fellow Texans.

If you are a true Texan then you support the entire process which includes the "appeals process" therefore this isn't over yet.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

If you are right, and what happened to Delay has no impact on Texas politics, that indeed is a sad commentary on the state of your State.

Better look at your own state before condemning another
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

I am merely repeating what you have already said about your own state. You can't have it both ways.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

If you are a true Texan then you support the entire process which includes the "appeals process" therefore this isn't over yet.


I support it as a US Citizen no matter what State I live in.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

I am merely repeating what you have already said about your own state.

As I pointed out what DeLay was convicted of doing had zero affect on national policies. Bush won the state by over 3 million votes in 2004, Kay Bailey Hutchinson won the Senate in a landslide, Cornyn won in 2008 and Obama lost the state by over a million votes. The will of the people is Conservative so what affect did DeLay have on the elections?
 
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I support it as a US Citizen no matter what State I live in.

Then as a TX citizen you support the will of the people which makes those laws? Didn't the will of the people vote in this last election?
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

Then as a TX citizen you support the will of the people which makes those laws? Didn't the will of the people vote in this last election?


Didn't a jury of of Delay's peers fellow Texans convict him?
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

Right, and the election results show how insignificant this verdict was in the overall election process.
please explain to everyone what exactly the recent elections had to do with what delay was convicted of?? what is the term i'm looking for here......?? strawman? you are making up something to argue against.....you are trying to defend the indefenseable......and an insignificant verdict? better explain that one
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

Conservative said:
This is a TX issue, not a national issue so tell me why you have so much passion and hatred for Tom DeLay?
Bred, born, raised, lived in Texas, so according to your logic I would have more claim than a transplant.

Besides, I knew of and about 'Hot Tub Tom' long before you even heard of Texas, much less moved there.

Conservative said:
Looks to me like you may have been spoon fed some false information but your opinions formed by listening to the media.
I stated that the conspiracy to violate election law charge was thrown out and upheld by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in '07 and you reply that it was MY OPINION...LOL...now that has to be the most damn silly thing I've seen you post on these forums - and that takes some doing. I mean, it's not like it's not so easily verifiable anywhere you care to look, media, court records, take your pick.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

Didn't a jury of of Delay's peers fellow Texans convict him?

Yep, and DeLay has the right to appeal. When the verdict is overturned what then for you? Amazing how it is the will of the people when someone is convicted that some don't like but an injustice when that verdict is overturned on the rule of law? Nothing DeLay does is going to satisfy you but the point remains the will of the people of TX shows that that DeLay did not have an affect on the majority in this state and their will.
 
Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

from Conservative

The will of the people is Conservative so what affect did DeLay have on the elections?

Correct me if I am wrong, but were not the last elections a few weeks before the conviction? How could the conviction of Delay have any impact on elections that have not yet happened? And it matters not if they do or not... he was convicted in a court and got all his Constitutional rights and was convicted under Texas law by a jury.
 
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