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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Just found it interesting how you always complained about off topic posts then gave a thank you for an off topic post.
    dude, you have been off topic since the beginning of this thread, i hardly think that you are in a posistion to complain.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

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    A viable third party begins at the grass roots level and builds to the national level, not start at the national level and build downward. In order to govern one needs political support at the national or state level. Name for me a successful third party candidate at either the state or national level. When in office they run up against the establishment and that leads to failure.
    In the last century, the most successful third party efforts have been those built around large and famous personalities - Teddy Roosevlet in 1912, George Wallace in 1968 and Ross Perot in 1992. TR finished second , Wallace ran again but was shot and his party was shot along with him, and Perot had no real interest in funding millions into a party without him at the top. Its too bad. I do not disagree with your analysis that a party needs to have support from the bottom. But I think it can be done both ways.
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

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    It is easier getting audience identifying myself as a Republican than it is as a third party advocate. My Representative is a staunch conservative and I know that person on a first name basis. I have met with him often. All supporting a third party candidate does is give you the opportunity to whine and complain about the end result. I don't see where that serves any purpose.
    If the GOP doesn't clean its house, and senate, it will likely become a third party....and the TeaParty is a poor substitute.
    I have been saying for years that if we get a DEM in the WH, it will be the GOP's fault.
    Let me modify it, if Obama wins a second term, it will be the GOP's fault.
    Here we are only 2 years away, and the GOP has NO viable candidate.
    By viable, I mean no crooks, con men, tax cheats, perverts, etc. AND has an academic record that indicates more than half a brain...
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Noticed that Randel gave you a thank you for this off topic post.
    since you have had your ass handed to you throughout this thread, where you refuse to accept that the hammer was justly convicted, it would seem that you would want the thread to move off topic to avoid further embarrassment
    you have no argument ... which does not seem to keep you from posting worthless crap which has nothing to do with delay's conviction. so, make your final point, accept the ass whipping, and move on
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    since you have had your ass handed to you throughout this thread, where you refuse to accept that the hammer was justly convicted, it would seem that you would want the thread to move off topic to avoid further embarrassment
    you have no argument ... which does not seem to keep you from posting worthless crap which has nothing to do with delay's conviction. so, make your final point, accept the ass whipping, and move on
    amen brother.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    If the GOP doesn't clean its house, and senate, it will likely become a third party....and the TeaParty is a poor substitute.
    I have been saying for years that if we get a DEM in the WH, it will be the GOP's fault.
    Let me modify it, if Obama wins a second term, it will be the GOP's fault.
    Here we are only 2 years away, and the GOP has NO viable candidate.
    By viable, I mean no crooks, con men, tax cheats, perverts, etc. AND has an academic record that indicates more than half a brain...
    Hopefully the tea party will grow into something that represents the 70% of America that does not hang out on the extreme right, or left, of both so-called parties.
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In the last century, the most successful third party efforts have been those built around large and famous personalities - Teddy Roosevlet in 1912, George Wallace in 1968 and Ross Perot in 1992. TR finished second , Wallace ran again but was shot and his party was shot along with him, and Perot had no real interest in funding millions into a party without him at the top. Its too bad. I do not disagree with your analysis that a party needs to have support from the bottom. But I think it can be done both ways.
    The problem anyone has with electing a third party is basic math. We have an electorate where 40-43% of the people will vote for a Democrat regardless of that candidate. Obama got 52% of the vote and has lost that 12% who voted for him leaving him with his base of 40% or so. That leaves a third party to re-elect Obama and that would be to further this disaster. Wallace gave us LBJ and Perot gave us Bill Clinton, both mistakes by the electorate. A third Party splits the vote for those who would vote for a Republican and thus puts the unqualified back into office.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    If the GOP doesn't clean its house, and senate, it will likely become a third party....and the TeaParty is a poor substitute.
    I have been saying for years that if we get a DEM in the WH, it will be the GOP's fault.
    Let me modify it, if Obama wins a second term, it will be the GOP's fault.
    Here we are only 2 years away, and the GOP has NO viable candidate.
    By viable, I mean no crooks, con men, tax cheats, perverts, etc. AND has an academic record that indicates more than half a brain...
    Let's see, we elected a President out of the Chicago political machine who put into his administration tax cheats, con men, communists, and has hidden his academic record. I don't think we could do much worse. Right now I see Romney, Huckabee, Daniels, and Thune as leading candidates but there is plenty of time. Based upon the Obama record I doubt that anyone running on the Republican ticket is going to have a problem defeating Obama.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    since you have had your ass handed to you throughout this thread, where you refuse to accept that the hammer was justly convicted, it would seem that you would want the thread to move off topic to avoid further embarrassment
    you have no argument ... which does not seem to keep you from posting worthless crap which has nothing to do with delay's conviction. so, make your final point, accept the ass whipping, and move on
    Hes post padding, trying to make 10,000 post before Monday.
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what would that have to do with this thread? answer --NOTHING.
    Uh he answer the question, therefore your post is irrelevant.
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