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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Tom DeLay is a very public figure; while from Texas, whose votes in Congress affected the country. It always brings me great joy to see those who abuse power receive punishment; Right, Left, or otherwise. With his close association to Jack Abramoff is proof positive of his scum factor.

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    In the course of the scheme, the lobbyists were accused of illegally giving gifts and making campaign donations to legislators in return for votes or support of legislation. Representative Bob Ney (R-OH) and two aides to Tom DeLay (R-TX) have been directly implicated; other politicians, mostly Republican lawmakers with connections to Indian affairs, have various ties. LINK

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but were not the last elections a few weeks before the conviction? How could the conviction of Delay have any impact on elections that have not yet happened? And it matters not if they do or not... he was convicted in a court and got all his Constitutional rights and was convicted under Texas law by a jury.
    Pure speculation on your part that it would have had any affect on the elections. Anyone watching the trial would have come to the same conclusion that most attorneys in Houston came to, the case was not made and DeLay wouldn't be convicted. Most Texans are very independent and pretty good judges of character. Any candidate in this state that supported the Obama agenda got destroyed and nothing DeLay did changed that reality.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    Tom DeLay is a very public figure; while from Texas, whose votes in Congress affected the country. It always brings me great joy to see those who abuse power receive punishment; Right, Left, or otherwise. With his close association to Jack Abramoff is proof positive of his scum factor.

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    The Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal is a United States political scandal relating to the work performed by political lobbyists Jack Abramoff, Ralph E. Reed, Jr., Grover Norquist and Michael Scanlon on Indian casino gambling interests for an estimated $85 million in fees. Abramoff and Scanlon grossly overbilled their clients, secretly splitting the multimillion-dollar profits. In one case, they secretly orchestrated lobbying against their own clients in order to force them to pay for lobbying services.
    In the course of the scheme, the lobbyists were accused of illegally giving gifts and making campaign donations to legislators in return for votes or support of legislation. Representative Bob Ney (R-OH) and two aides to Tom DeLay (R-TX) have been directly implicated; other politicians, mostly Republican lawmakers with connections to Indian affairs, have various ties. LINK

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    Democrats took control of Congress in the 2006 elections so how did DeLay affect that election? Too bad you don't go after Democrats with the same passion as you seem to hate Republicans. Ever been to Chicago and involved in Chicago politics? How about NY, California, Philly, Detroit, or any other Democrat dominated state or city. You have selective outrage

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Texas has already lowered their standards in many ways, so I agree that Tom might get pardoned, or something, eventually.
    The man has big brass balls, it would not surprise me to see him running for governor of Texas, and then president.
    You really have an interesting view on the state of TX. Looks to me it is based upon prejudices you have based upon dealing with relatives that live in Kingwood. Your claim that TX has lowered standards is a personal view that isn't based upon facts.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Democrats took control of Congress in the 2006 elections so how did DeLay affect that election? Too bad you don't go after Democrats with the same passion as you seem to hate Republicans. Ever been to Chicago and involved in Chicago politics? How about NY, California, Philly, Detroit, or any other Democrat dominated state or city. You have selective outrage
    So the crime committed in Texas is OK because other politicians did it in other states?
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Excuse me....?
    I will spell it out for you...Texas lowered its standards first by electing Bush to governor....is that factual enough for you?
    BTW, I have one relative in Kingwood, and she is well off. It is the other relatives that are the problem, and they live in Houston and Livingston.
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Democrats took control of Congress in the 2006 elections so how did DeLay affect that election? Too bad you don't go after Democrats with the same passion as you seem to hate Republicans. Ever been to Chicago and involved in Chicago politics? How about NY, California, Philly, Detroit, or any other Democrat dominated state or city. You have selective outrage
    Who said anything about elections? I didn't. You are to busy rubber-stamping replies. I previously stated I was happy to see ANYONE brought to justice. Take a breath.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    So the crime committed in Texas is OK because other politicians did it in other states?
    Randel said that DeLay "destroyed the will of the people" and as I pointed out the actual results which show that he had little if any affect on the will of the people. You have a lot of passion for what happened to Tom DeLay and the question is why? My bet is you don't really care but are just looking to stir the pot knowing that I am doing the same thing.

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

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    Pure speculation on your part that it would have had any affect on the elections. Anyone watching the trial would have come to the same conclusion that most attorneys in Houston came to, the case was not made and DeLay wouldn't be convicted. Most Texans are very independent and pretty good judges of character. Any candidate in this state that supported the Obama agenda got destroyed and nothing DeLay did changed that reality.
    do you know 'most of the people' of texas? how would you know if they are 'pretty good judges of charachter'? you say that anyone who watched the trial would come to the same conclussion as a couple of lawyers in houston? how come the jury didnt? and why did they find him guilty? you can't make claims like that and substantiate them with any evidence, for anyone to actually belive your statements, they would have to assume that you personally know the minds of everyone in texas....that is impossible, as you well know..

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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/delay_quash21017.pdf

    Since you were born and raised in TX then you understand the appeals process as well as you under stand Ronnie Earl. Things have been very bleak for you over the past decade on the political front as it appears that the will of the majority contradicts your will to get those who you don't agree with.
    WTF????

    You show DeGuerin filed a motion, in '05, to quash "conspiracy to violate the Texas Election Code".

    I stated that the charge of conspiracy to violate election law was thrown out and upheld by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in '07 and you want to argue. Are you intentionally trying to look ridiculous?
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