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    Re: DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, are you content with Rangel getting what amounts to an ass chewing for evading hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes?
    No I am not content, as I have explained in threads actually about him. This is where I get to claim constancy. I don't try and hide my sides dirty laundry by pointing to the other side. When we have some one who is corrupt, it's time to condemn them and that is it. It's amusing but sad to see how few actually simply condemn corruption.
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    Re: DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No I am not content, as I have explained in threads actually about him. This is where I get to claim constancy. I don't try and hide my sides dirty laundry by pointing to the other side. When we have some one who is corrupt, it's time to condemn them and that is it. It's amusing but sad to see how few actually simply condemn corruption.
    Redress, I was fixing to say the same thing.

    Liberals, I, as a libertarian with conservative roots, would like to apologize for the conservatives behavior in this thread. Instead of saying "Yay, it's time to clean up the conservative party, lets lock up the crooks and start with Delay!" or something to that affect, or at LEAST say "Let's wait until all appeals are settled before jumping the gun" all they do is point to the other side.

    Although personally I am guilty of the "Yea, but HE did it too" mantra (Redress knows what I mean) I hate it. It reflects badly on the conservative party. I think that conservatives here are afraid that liberals will look down on their party because of a conviction. Well, funny, because I don't look down on the party when Rangel was convicted, I'm just glad they caught him. Same with Delay, if he in fact is guilty.

    What do you think outsiders think about our country when we don't show unity when a corrupt politician is found, on either side, all we do is point fingers at the other sides crooks? That looks childish; no wonder nobody respects America anymore. It's time to stand up, damnit, ignore the letter next to someone's name, and unite to rid our government of ALL corruption. Once we clean the waters, then we can once again be proud of our nation.

    Conservatives, stand up!! Show the democrats that you are PROUD to clean up your party. The bible states to worry about the log in your own eye before the stick in someone elses. You should be proud that another crooked Republican was caught, it's like finding one more problem with a broken down car. Eventually, the car will run again. Make your party the one that people respect for NOT defending a crooks actions!
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    Re: DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

    I knew I should not have peeked in on this thread, I feel all slimy and repulsed now.
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    Re: DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

    An answer to apdst - No I am not. As far as I am concerned, Rangel should be in prison. So should DeLay.

    Here is the problem I have with your side. You are quick to jump all over Jefferson and Rangel for doing the same things DeLay did, but you are quick to defend DeLay. The way I see it, the law is the law. In Texas, money laundering is punishable by prison. DeLay was found guilty. He should go to prison. I don't give a damn about anybody else. That is for different threads. In this thread, I am all for DeLay going to prison. Feel free to start another thread about how Rangel should go to prison, and I will be the first to jump in and agree with you. However, THIS thread is about Tom DeLay, the convicted money launderer.
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    Re: DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

    To dontworrybehappy: Damn right. Excellent post. :P
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    Re: DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    There are a couple of things about this subject that bother me:
    • The propensity of left-leaning posters for celebration
    • The propensity of right-leaning posters for obfuscation and finger-pointing
    By no means am I saying that all posters of any particular lean are behaving in a certain way. I'm just saying I noticed patterns that bothered me.

    What bothers me the most is the fact that DeLay is facing a maximum sentence of 99 + 20 years. That's obscene.

    Criminal sanctions should in some way be proportional to actual harm done. Failing a clear finding on that front, a sentence of not more than 3 years is more than reasonable.
    he broke the law, he essentially helped defeat the 'will of the people' in texas, he deserves more than 3 years.....10-15 at least.

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    Re: DeLay convicted of money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    he broke the law, he essentially helped defeat the 'will of the people' in texas, he deserves more than 3 years.....10-15 at least.
    "helped defeat the will of the people?" How did he do that? Do you think everyone is a robot like you and votes for a Democrat simply because there is a "D" by their name? Tom DeLay had no impact on the 2008 and 2010 elections which all were individual races and on Nov. 2, 2010 20 more GOP legislators were elected to the state legislature. How did Redistricting create that? How did redistricting cause Obama to lose the state by well over a million votes?

    The "will of the people" in this state is conservative and the results show that it works, part time legislature, no state income taxes, personal responsibility. Ohio ought to try that and apparently is with your elections on Nov. 2.

    Whether or not Tom DeLay broke the law is still at question as this case is being appealed. If the conviction is upheld I will admit that I was wrong and that he is guilty but don't give me that "will of the people" rhetoric because you have to understand it before claiming it was defeated. My bet is you won't even address a reversal of that verdict when it happens.

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    Re: Ex-House Leader DeLay Found Guilty in Texas Case

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    He was convicted by a jury of his fellow Texans.
    and a lot of those live in trailers..
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    Re: Texas jury convicts Tom DeLay on money laundering charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you believe that Chappy has a good grasp on the testimony and the issues surrounding this case? Read his post again and get back to me. Redistricting is a state issue not something DeLay had anything to do with and it is the opinion of local attorneys that this will be overturned on appeal so then what?
    zzz... Time to move on and let Conservative go whine in a corner. He's apparently balling so resonately he can't hear anyone.

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    Re: Ex-House Leader DeLay Found Guilty in Texas Case

    Political pundits wear blinders, they can only focus on what the "enemy" does and are blind to what their own party does.
    We seldom get the needed news that the same thing is still happening today.

    We really need a law that is directed at Betrayal of the Public Trust....which would affect govt workers, politicians, Wall Streeters, even preachers, who use their position and influence in a way that costs the public money.
    The guilty get to lose all their ill gotten gains, retirement credits, etc. PLUS go to a real prison.
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