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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Post #279.
    in post 279 you concede that my point prevails where confronted with overwhelming force

    which allows us to conclude that when there is not overwhelming opposition you believe there to be something more essential to achieving military victory than control of the battlefield

    but you failed to let us know what is more important to attainment of military victory than control of the battlefield

    since it's thanksgiving, you get another try

    i look forward to your telling us what is more essential to achieving military victory than control of the battlefield
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    in post 279 you concede that my point prevails where confronted with overwhelming force

    which allows us to conclude that when there is not overwhelming opposition you believe there to be something more essential to achieving military victory than control of the battlefield

    but you failed to let us know what is more important to attainment of military victory than control of the battlefield

    since it's thanksgiving, you get another try

    i look forward to your telling us what is more essential to achieving military victory than control of the battlefield
    Aren't you embarrassed that you didn't even understand the basic premise of my post? Seriously, its like you looked at it thought, "Ahhh...I don't feel like addressing it, I'll just bull s**t" and then you posted this.

    Now go back, read my post, and address it, properly.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Not too negative, just unrealistic. That was obvious when I said "In reality that really isn't the case."
    Perhaps you should visit and see how rosy it is? However the last American that tried that almost didn't come back. And I hear if you need to lose weight it would be a great place to visit. I'm sure the starving natives would love to give up what little they have to share with you.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    They would have to disband the UN first, then attempt to create a new similar organization. The creation of a new one would unlikely allow for the creation of permenant "Security Council Members" with veto power
    You're wasting your time LT.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Aren't you embarrassed that you didn't even understand the basic premise of my post? Seriously, its like you looked at it thought, "Ahhh...I don't feel like addressing it, I'll just bull s**t" and then you posted this.

    Now go back, read my post, and address it, properly.
    it was addressed with all of the heft it deserved
    but impress us and tell us what is more essential to achieving military victory than maintaining control of the battlefield ... this should be rich [/s]
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Never mind that any war will not involve us pounding them for a month before any ground forces get involved.
    Could you elaborate on that DOL? I would think pounding them first would be in our best interest. Are you saying ground action would be so immediate we won't get the option to pound them first?

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, just like in 1950, they had so many men, in need of so much materiale, so far away from friendly rear areas, that they couldn't support them any longer.

    Combat power depends on being able to provide pogistical support for your forward friendly forces.

    It's funny to watch Libbos talk about combat tactics, as if they have the first ****ing clue what they're trying to say.
    You may be surprised to know what kind of combat experience those you call "libbos" have. From my experience the guy who thinks he's the expert with the big mouth is no where near the expert he thinks he is.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it was addressed with all of the heft it deserved
    but impress us and tell us what is more essential to achieving military victory than maintaining control of the battlefield ... this should be rich [/s]
    As I pointed out in the post you obviously didn't read, you cannot find a country that can field enough soldiers to take 20-to-1 losses, and keep going. If there are 28,500 American Soldiers in South Korea, you would need 570,000 troops to take them out, plus the South Korean Army has 655,000 active duty soldiers, plus 3 million reserves. Maybe if all of North Korea mobilized, they could take the peninsula, but thats not feasible. China and North Korea together can't take the peninsula if the 20-to-1 ratio holds true, and that difference will be even more pronounced now, because the Allied Air Forces, Naval Forces and Ground Forces are a considerably more powerful than they were. The North Koreans not so much, and unless every Chinese soldier, along with every army vehicle they have goes until, they cannot even hope to match the technological superiority of the Allies.

    So, yeah, you're right in some ludicrously extreme hypothetical scenario, controlling the battlefield is the most important thing, and is the goal every country should work to achieve. When you apply reality to the situation, however, and find out it'd take a million plus soldiers to control the battlefield, you look pretty foolish.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Anyone beside myself think that maybe the ole man has died and the son has take over?
    Anything's possible. The only sure thing is if it's in NK's best interest not to tell us we won't hear it from them.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    NK Special Forces number more than 100000 (the biggest in the world)...
    Don't underestimate your own Special Forces. My dad who was in Special Forces during the Vietnam era was familar with some of them. He said they were very, very, tough cookies. No one to mess with. I can't recall for sure but I believe he said something about them skewering VC heads on fence posts as a warning. Or maybe that was the Chinese that were on our side.
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