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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Debate Politics: UPDATE

    FLASH: North Korea rejects talks proposal from U.S. forces in South Korea, says South Korean government source: Yonhap
    less than 5 seconds ago via Seesmic Web .

    FLASH: North Korea warns of more retaliatory attacks for new south "provocations"
    10 minutes ago via Seesmic Web

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    First off I would like to thank you for keeping this on topic. This is an important topic specifically to me that I don't think needs to be cheapened with the typical fluff on this forum.

    As for what you found that is very interesting, however the way it seems China is reacting to this there will not be as much cause for alarm as well, North Korea is on their own. Apparently Kim Jong-Il (sp) son is commanding these NK forces?
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    I think China will sooner or later but their pit bull back in it's cage, if they don't I believe NK will be on their own. That part of the region can ill afford a war that would involve the U.S. and ultimately involve the rest of the world indirectly either monetarily, economically and eventually make this fragile world economical atmosphere worse. Just my 2 cents worth.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    again, lost contol of the battlefield
    there is no substitute for maintaining control of the battlefield
    keep playing. try again
    And, just like in 1950, they had so many men, in need of so much materiale, so far away from friendly rear areas, that they couldn't support them any longer.

    Combat power depends on being able to provide pogistical support for your forward friendly forces.

    It's funny to watch Libbos talk about combat tactics, as if they have the first ****ing clue what they're trying to say.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Cut off their information.
    if you retain control of the battlefield despite the absence of current intelligence, what has the enemy actually accomplished?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if you retain control of the battlefield despite the absence of current intelligence, what has the enemy actually accomplished?
    Nothing.

    But such is unlikely.

    If they cut off your supply of information, you will not know (until too late) when they bring forces into play that could give THEM control of the battlefield.

    Information is an integral part of battlefield control.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, just like in 1950, they had so many men, in need of so much materiale, so far away from friendly rear areas, that they couldn't support them any longer.

    Combat power depends on being able to provide pogistical support for your forward friendly forces.

    It's funny to watch Libbos talk about combat tactics, as if they have the first ****ing clue what they're trying to say.
    the real humor is in watching those whose lame statements are shown to be without basis attempt to deflect the attention away from their unsupportable positions
    in this instance, you would want to discuss the necessity of logistical support for an extended military presence

    it was asserted that
    ... there is much more to war than control of the battlefield.
    and i said that was wrong
    your side insists that there is something more essential to military victory than control of the battlefield
    in your most recent failed try you insisted logistics was more critical than control of the battlefield as an essential element of military victory

    certainly, such control could not be accomplished where logistical support was required but unavailable, but that aspect of control of the battlefield is not in question
    stretching an army beyond its logistic support is not good strategy to maintain control of the battlefield
    having adequate logistic support does not assure control of the battlefield
    which means you are wrong yet again. sorry, no kewpie doll
    we are still waiting on you to tell us what is more essential to military victory than control of the battlefield
    try again
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I think he would be getting that info from the R. Limbaugh archives.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    try again
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    One of the problems I see in this little thought exercise is the where and who. I think we should come up withthe most extreme case we can find.

    I think we should look at what would happen in the Chinese Ground Forces went up against the American Forces in South Korea. I'm not sure which American forces to consider though, whats the limit you guys want to draw up? I'm thinking American Forces on the peninsula, in Guam and Japan. For China, it'd be their entire army, for arguments sake. That work?

    EDIT: Looking into it, we should consider the 8th US Army, Pacific Air Forces, Marine Forces Korea, and US Naval Forces Korea for the American side. Thats 28,500 troops.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    In any case that would be considered an act of war.
    How can it be an act of war when they have technically already been at war since 53'?

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