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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, and whom might that be?


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    I would have expected for an airborne operative to know. That innocent nation was Iraq. It took no part in 9-11 and we went above and beyond in the decision to destroy that nation. And we overthrew the government, etc. Perhaps we should do the same in NKorea?

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    I would have expected for an airborne operative to know. That innocent nation was Iraq. It took no part in 9-11 and we went above and beyond in the decision to destroy that nation. And we overthrew the government, etc. Perhaps we should do the same in NKorea?
    Uh huh....And are you privy to every scrap of intel of the time? I suspect not. But I don't know.


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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Uh huh....And are you privy to every scrap of intel of the time? I suspect not. But I don't know.


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    Answer two questions:

    1.) Did Iraq attack the U.S.?

    2.) Did Iraq have anything to do with 911?

    If the answer is no to both questions there was no justification to attack Iraq and occupy the country. End of story. You can play the classified game all you want but even Bush 2 has acknowledged Iraq was no threat to the U.S. That's why he went on to his nation building and "we're going to bring democracy to the Iraqi people" facade.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Answer two questions:

    1.) Did Iraq attack the U.S.?
    Define 'attack'

    2.) Did Iraq have anything to do with 911?
    I would not be able to answer definitively as I am not privy to all of the information surrounding that from every source. Neither are you I might add. My gut tells me that in some way whether it was a training site like is thought to have been in central Iraq with the Airliner fuselage, to possible materiel support in the form of funding. It is possible.

    If the answer is no to both questions there was no justification to attack Iraq and occupy the country. End of story. You can play the classified game all you want but even Bush 2 has acknowledged Iraq was no threat to the U.S. That's why he went on to his nation building and "we're going to bring democracy to the Iraqi people" facade.
    the former President Bush has also acknowledged that gong into Iraq was the right thing to do. You and I have debated this subject at length for years now, and the best you can do is a stalemate. You used to get rather upset at me for using what you called "Black and white thinking" meaning that I only gave a this or that false choice to the equation before me. Well, tell me what is it you do here. Looks the same to me.

    I maintain that today Iraq is a better place without Saddam Hussein. Am I for 'nation building'? No, but in the light of events of the time, we acted in the way we thought was right, and no armchair quarterbacking is going to change that.


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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Define 'attack'



    I would not be able to answer definitively as I am not privy to all of the information surrounding that from every source. Neither are you I might add. My gut tells me that in some way whether it was a training site like is thought to have been in central Iraq with the Airliner fuselage, to possible materiel support in the form of funding. It is possible.



    the former President Bush has also acknowledged that gong into Iraq was the right thing to do. You and I have debated this subject at length for years now, and the best you can do is a stalemate. You used to get rather upset at me for using what you called "Black and white thinking" meaning that I only gave a this or that false choice to the equation before me. Well, tell me what is it you do here. Looks the same to me.

    I maintain that today Iraq is a better place without Saddam Hussein. Am I for 'nation building'? No, but in the light of events of the time, we acted in the way we thought was right, and no armchair quarterbacking is going to change that.


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    Of course Bush says it was the right thing to do. There's no way a man of his ego would say otherwise even though to any nonpartisan independent observer it was an unmitigated disaster and continues to be to some extent. Funny I don't remember the mass bombings when Sadam was in power, so your they are better off now is questionable. I look for Iraq to become another dictatorship.

    Wow for all the blood and treasury we've spent there I don't find that very successful. We got rid of one dictator to make the way for another one. And at what cost? We should have stayed out of bum **** Eqypt in the first place.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Of course Bush says it was the right thing to do. There's no way a man of his ego would say otherwise even though to any nonpartisan independent observer it was an unmitigated disaster and continues to be to some extent. Funny I don't remember the mass bombings when Sadam was in power, so your they are better off now is questionable. I look for Iraq to become another dictatorship.

    Wow for all the blood and treasury we've spent there I don't find that very successful. We got rid of one dictator to make the way for another one. And at what cost? We should have stayed out of bum **** Eqypt in the first place.
    Wow, you weren't paying very much attention, were you?

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Answer two questions:

    1.) Did Iraq attack the U.S.?

    2.) Did Iraq have anything to do with 911?

    If the answer is no to both questions there was no justification to attack Iraq and occupy the country. End of story. You can play the classified game all you want but even Bush 2 has acknowledged Iraq was no threat to the U.S. That's why he went on to his nation building and "we're going to bring democracy to the Iraqi people" facade.
    You're naive to think Iraq wasn't involved in some manner (Clinton warned of this many times). And if you're going to defeat Islamic terrorism, you'd best set up a base to do it from. Where better than Iraq, right in the middle of the backwards Islamic world?

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Wow, you weren't paying very much attention, were you?

    Prove there were car bombs terrorists bombing etc. before we became involved.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You're naive to think Iraq wasn't involved in some manner (Clinton warned of this many times). And if you're going to defeat Islamic terrorism, you'd best set up a base to do it from. Where better than Iraq, right in the middle of the backwards Islamic world?
    Again prove it. I want to see evidence that Iraq was involved in 911 or was a threat to the U.S.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Again prove it. I want to see evidence that Iraq was involved in 911 or was a threat to the U.S.
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