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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Uh, yeah, they do. They've hated each other for centuries and the Sokos haven't forgotten about the atrocities committed by Japan during it's colonization of Korea, from 1910-1945. During this time, there was the Kanto Massacre, where 6,000 Koreans were murdered. The Empress Myeong-Seong was murdered by Japanese hitmen. The Japanese rounded up 100,000-200,000 Korean women to be used as sex slaves; they were known as, "comfort women". 300,000 to 1 million Koreans were used as slave labor. Unit 731 was organized by the Japanese, to perform outrageous human experiments on Koreans. It was basically an Asian version of the Holocaust. Yeah, the Koreans hate the Japanese.
    Relations between the two countries have improved since WW2 and we already know what Japanese Empire did to them so you don't have to repeat something that is in every history book. Both countries have normalized relationships. They are not enemies who want to destroy each other anymore. Koreans are looking at their real enemy which is the north.

    The Japanese have their troops on high alert, but it's to defend Japan, not to launch an offensive measure to protect SoKo. I doubt that SoKo would allow Japanese troops to be landed on Korean soil. Diplomatically speaking, that could be the worst thing. It may cause an alliance between the North and the South, against Japan. Can you say, "jumping out of the frying pan into the fire"?
    Exactly, Japan put it's troops on high alert to defend against North Korea because both countries consider that regime a threat. Japan fears in some way they will get involved. There is a chance North Korea would fire missiles at Japan or get into a confrontation at sea. I never said Japan would have to land troops on the penensila to fight the war.

    For the sake of getting back on topic let's just say Japan has no involvement what so ever in the war. South Korea is still stronger then North Korea. Can we at least agree on that or continue wasting time arguing about Japan?
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post

    While further escalation may make war unavoidable at this point it is quite possible to calm tensions.
    I would't be so sure, SK's president is calling for a "enormous retaliation" now:

    After North Korean strike, South Korean leader threatens 'retaliation'

    After North Korean strike, South Korean leader threatens 'retaliation' - CNN.com

    Even the strongest political leaders have a point where they can't be seen as constantly taking it on the chin and their patience has been tried too far.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    If I was China right now I would be negotiating the retaliation that SK can do, while telling NK what retaliation they will allow

    Basically I would allow for SK to attack the positions that fired on them, destroying the artillery in the process. No more then that, and I would threaten NK not to respond to it.

    From an economic and geopolitical standpoint South Korea is far more important to China then NK is. The only value NK is to China is to keep a large concentration of US forces away from its direct boarder.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

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    Politics aside...you KNOW the frost is off the punkin when even Castro starts calling Obama a snake charmer...
    So you take Castro seriously?

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    Relations between the two countries have improved since WW2 and we already know what Japanese Empire did to them so you don't have to repeat something that is in every history book. Both countries have normalized relationships. They are not enemies who want to destroy each other anymore. Koreans are looking at their real enemy which is the north.
    Just like the Jews and the Nazis have made amends. Eh?



    Exactly, Japan put it's troops on high alert to defend against North Korea because both countries consider that regime a threat. Japan fears in some way they will get involved. There is a chance North Korea would fire missiles at Japan or get into a confrontation at sea. I never said Japan would have to land troops on the penensila to fight the war.
    Because Japan sees NorKo as a threat to Japan. They could give a **** about SoKo.



    South Korea is still stronger then North Korea. Can we at least agree on that or continue wasting time arguing about Japan?
    You brought it up, not me. I was only correcting your erroneous comments.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If I was China right now I would be negotiating the retaliation that SK can do, while telling NK what retaliation they will allow

    Basically I would allow for SK to attack the positions that fired on them, destroying the artillery in the process. No more then that, and I would threaten NK not to respond to it.

    From an economic and geopolitical standpoint South Korea is far more important to China then NK is. The only value NK is to China is to keep a large concentration of US forces away from its direct boarder.
    If you were China, right now, you would be sticking with your Communist brothers. What's China going to do? Abandon NorKo and allow them to be overwhlemed by the Democratic South Korea?

    Some folks need a serious history lesson, prior to posting on this issue.
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post


    Well, on the other hand, every South Korean I've met has been really friendly.
    Same here except for one exception. We had one that had mental problems at my university. Otherwise they were very polite low key individuals.

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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Just like the Jews and the Nazis have made amends. Eh?
    The Nazi's aren't around anymore. You fail.

    Because Japan sees NorKo as a threat to Japan. They could give a **** about SoKo.
    Yay! Finally we are getting somewhere! Woo Hoo! That's what I've been trying to say until you got started acting like a jerk.

    You brought it up, not me. I was only correcting your erroneous comments.
    Cool, does that mean I get to direct you back on topic?
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you were China, right now, you would be sticking with your Communist brothers. What's China going to do? Abandon NorKo and allow them to be overwhlemed by the Democratic South Korea?

    Some folks need a serious history lesson, prior to posting on this issue.
    And some people need to understand that things do change

    China is no where near the same country it was in 1970. SK is far more important a country to China now then NK is

    It wont allow SK to overwhelm NK as its security intesests will be comprised
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    Re: North Korea reportedly fires at South

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Except it isnt that simple. You risk pulling China in and that is war we cannot win.
    Do you think China is just going to kiss a trillion dollars in US bonds goodbye because of NK? China doesn't need to go to war with the US, they already have us on a leash.

    The NK's and SK's do not want a war. It would devastate both sides without even the certainty of a unification and they know it. They have been stepping on each other's toes since the truce and technically they're still at war with each other.

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