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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post

    This thread is about them seeking federal funding.
    Seeking federal funding???? We are broke!!! We don't have a pot to piss in.
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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    If it is up to Obama he will give them funding

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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    May be a stretch, but I thought we were to have a seperation of church and State. IMO, no federal funding should go towards the center. I would have the same opinion if it was a Christian center.
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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    With respect to the constitutionality of government funding, a center like this very easily passes the Lemon Test:

    Lemon v. Kurtzman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As far as it goes with actually seeking Federal funding, they should feel free. Any other development project in a troubled area would do the same. The fact that a lot of people are going throw a temper tantrum isn't a legitimate reason to tell them to take a hike.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    With respect to the constitutionality of government funding, a center like this very easily passes the Lemon Test:

    Lemon v. Kurtzman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As far as it goes with actually seeking Federal funding, they should feel free. Any other development project in a troubled area would do the same. The fact that a lot of people are going throw a temper tantrum isn't a legitimate reason to tell them to take a hike.
    By all means build the mosque. It will become a focal point in the internecine struggle and strife in which the country is now engaged. The mosque will be characterized as a symbol of American defeat and subjugation. No one can stop it from being so characterized. The mosque will become a millstone around the neck of the American Left. Works for me.

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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    With respect to the constitutionality of government funding, a center like this very easily passes the Lemon Test:

    Lemon v. Kurtzman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As far as it goes with actually seeking Federal funding, they should feel free. Any other development project in a troubled area would do the same. The fact that a lot of people are going throw a temper tantrum isn't a legitimate reason to tell them to take a hike.
    IMO, not a good example. However your link also states , "Lemon's future is somewhat uncertain. Sustained criticism by conservative Justices such as Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas,[2] lack of a clear reaffirmation of the central tenets of Lemon over the years since the 1980s, and inconsistent application in major Establishment Clause cases has led some legal commentators and lower court judges to believe that Lemon's days are numbered, and that the Court has implicitly left the decision of whether to apply the test in a specific case up to lower courts.". It also linked to other cases such as it was not legal to have prayers recited at school football games.

    IMO, the center does not pass all three of the lemon test.
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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    By all means build the mosque. It will become a focal point in the internecine struggle and strife in which the country is now engaged. The mosque will be characterized as a symbol of American defeat and subjugation. No one can stop it from being so characterized. The mosque will become a millstone around the neck of the American Left. Works for me.
    It.

    Isn't.

    A mosque.

    This is exactly what I'm talking about.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It.

    Isn't.

    A mosque.

    This is exactly what I'm talking about.
    Perspective is a funny thing isn't it? Only those who suffer from the malady of eurocentrism would fail to realize how the MOSQUE/COMMUNITY CENTRE will be interpreted by those bearded fanatics who are not eurocentric in their mindset.

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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    Developers of Mosque Near Ground Zero Seek Federal Funds for Post-9/11 Rebuilding - FoxNews.com
    "If Imam Feisal and his retinue want to know why they're not trusted, here's yet another reason,” Irshad Manji, author of "The Trouble with Islam" and director of the Moral Courage Project at NYU, told the Daily Beast. “The New Yorkers I speak with have questions about Park51. Requesting money from public coffers without engaging the public shows a staggering lack of empathy -- especially from a man who says he's all about dialogue."
    Irshad is Director of the Moral Courage Project at New York University’s School of Public Service. The project teaches young leaders to challenge intellectual conformity and self-censorship. She is also a senior fellow with the European Foundation for Democracy, which promotes universal human rights and freedom of conscience.

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    Re: Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

    I just don't understand the big deal here. If they qualify for the money, they should get it same as any one. If they don't, they won't. Why is it a big deal they apply for it?
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