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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Was SNL ever on the TSA's side!?
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if he put an end to the screenings, and someone got through and blew up a plane, then he would hear how he didnt do enough to prevent it.
    There is a difference between opposing, and wanting to end, particular types of screening and ending ALL screening - the FORMER being what the opposition of these pat downs and body scanners are, and the latter being a convinient straw man that started out as a simple misunderstanding but seem to be increasingly used by Pistole and their ilk to slander those opposed to the patdowns and body scanners.

    WE. DON'T. OPPOSE. HAVING. SCREENING. IN. GENERAL.

    We just oppose the un-necessarily intrusive and un-effective.

    [And last I checked, one could oppose particular methods of screening and still support having some form of screening in place]
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    There is a difference between opposing, and wanting to end, particular types of screening and ending ALL screening - the FORMER being what the opposition of these pat downs and body scanners are, and the latter being a convinient straw man that started out as a simple misunderstanding but seem to be increasingly used by Pistole and their ilk to slander those opposed to the patdowns and body scanners.

    WE. DON'T. OPPOSE. HAVING. SCREENING. IN. GENERAL.

    We just oppose the un-necessarily intrusive and un-effective.

    [And last I checked, one could oppose particular methods of screening and still support having some form of screening in place]
    Travelsonic, what kind of security do you want to see for people wearing burqas? Other flowing clothing. When they refuse to go through body scanners? Bombs don't have to contain metal, so metal detectors aren't enough. What's your pleasure?
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Geraldo interviewed the former head of El Al security. He said the scanners is all bull**** and a waste of money. He said trained security and profiling is the answer. That means concentrating on those individuals that come from countries that hate America.
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Geraldo interviewed the former head of El Al security. He said the scanners is all bull**** and a waste of money. He said trained security and profiling is the answer. That means concentrating on those individuals that come from countries that hate America.
    Which includes racial profiling. Weather you think it really is or not you can be damn sure that lots of people will look at it that way. Also the Israeli aiport security will generally wave through other Israelies but will stop pretty much everyone else and question them at length and will give them a physical screening. Something which many in this thread seemed to be opposed to...and yet I've already seen a few of them say that they wouldn't mind Israel's type of security here. (or words to that effect anyways) How ironic.
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Which includes racial profiling. Weather you think it really is or not you can be damn sure that lots of people will look at it that way.
    Well not if they profile based on nationality, or country they're flying from, rather than just targeting all arab looking people. Simply diligently screen all passengers flying in from countries known to house terrorists, or whom are citizens to the same countries, and no-one can cry racism, and security is still tightened.
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ok Obama. You lost me here. You're actually suggesting that I'm gonna be safer travelling as long as some security dude can touch my balls.

    **** that.

    You're telling me that there's not one TSA agent that's gonna get a ****ing stiffy from feeling up me, or my mom or anybody else for that matter, it's ****ing rediculous and indefensible.

    Since when did it become Ok to say

    "you've bought a plane ticket, now bend over, and we're gonna get to do with you what we want".

    No son of a bitch is touching my junk.

    All your howling during the campaign about how bad it was under Bush in terms of personal privacy and you're defending this rubbish.
    This is how I feel everytime the liberals whine and cry about raising my taxes to give to some worthless people in America that wont get off their fatasses.

    You voted for his sorry ass so deal with it. Or dont fly. Ironic how the liberals are now whining about govt abuse after supporting the abuse of American taxpayers for so long. Reap what you sow MF'ers

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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Which includes racial profiling. Weather you think it really is or not you can be damn sure that lots of people will look at it that way. Also the Israeli aiport security will generally wave through other Israelies but will stop pretty much everyone else and question them at length and will give them a physical screening. Something which many in this thread seemed to be opposed to...and yet I've already seen a few of them say that they wouldn't mind Israel's type of security here. (or words to that effect anyways) How ironic.
    That's right, and the Israelis don't give a damn. But rest assured, THEIR airplanes are going to be safe. It's time to find out who has the body scanner company in their district.

    Uh oh, looks like things might be headed south.

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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Also the Israeli aiport security will generally wave through other Israelies but will stop pretty much everyone else and question them at length and will give them a physical screening.
    Not true. You must be at the airport at least three hours before your flight. Everyone who flies out of Ben Gurion International Airport must undergo an intensive oral interview. Your identity papers, passport, airline tickets, etc. will also be thoroughly examined by document experts. In addition, all personal luggage and flight cargo must pass through a decompression chamber which will simulate air pressure at different flight altitudes. No one gets a free pass. That's why it works.

    As far as body pat-downs, let a robot do it. Bots don't get off on touching your precious junk.

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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    To show his conviction, Obama, Mo'bama, and those two lovely little girls should also be subjected to the TSA guidelines every time they fly inlcuding the video screening and the occasional pat-down. Every elected official should also be subject...and it should be in public or video tapped and shown everytime they fly.

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