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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    To play devil's advocate, if the TSA were to end the pat-downs tomorrow what would stand in the way of a repeat of the Christmas Bomber?
    This statement makes it sound as though the TSA successfully prevented the first incident...
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    To play devil's advocate, if the TSA were to end the pat-downs tomorrow what would stand in the way of a repeat of the Christmas Bomber?
    Probably the same thing that prevented it last time.
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Remember how I'd always say "I voted for change and I got Bush III?"

    This is what I'm talking about. For 9 years now we've been slowly forced to accept more and more harassment and intrusion from the agencies who are supposedly there to protect us. And we keep accepting it. I've talked to co-workers whose response is "well, it keeps us safe."

    What? That's it? No questions? Jesus, people. The TSA has virtually no oversight. Congress gives them everything they want because to do otherwise is to give your opponent the "OPENED THE DOORS TO TERRORISTSSSSS" attack ad. And we've gone along with it. People who vote against the TSA get voted out of office. The sole senator to vote against the PATRIOT act got voted out of office.

    The really sad part? The terrorists who hate us probably don't even care about airplanes anymore. They've done the damage there, they're switching to other tactics. Mailing bombs via UPS costs them almost nothing, but we're going to end up with massive mail screening procedures I bet. Then what? They blow up one bus, and suddenly the TSA is at every intercity bus hub.

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    You voted for an ultra-Liberal president and that's exactly what you got.

    Profiling is illegal and that's the way you want it. It's profling to target an African Muslim, whose name is on the no-fly list and paid for a one-way ticket, with cash and didn't have any luggage. That wasn't enough evidence for them to decided that he didn't need to board an aircraft. Instead, they insist that if they had played with his sack for a few minutes, they would have caught him red-handed.
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You voted for an ultra-Liberal president and that's exactly what you got.

    Profiling is illegal and that's the way you want it. It's profling to target an African Muslim, whose name is on the no-fly list and paid for a one-way ticket, with cash and didn't have any luggage. That wasn't enough evidence for them to decided that he didn't need to board an aircraft. Instead, they insist that if they had played with his sack for a few minutes, they would have caught him red-handed.
    How do you knew Deuce voted for Obama?

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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    To play devil's advocate, if the TSA were to end the pat-downs tomorrow what would stand in the way of a repeat of the Christmas Bomber?
    The 9/11 hijackers were all on the terrorist watch list; bought tickest under their real names and were in the country illegally.

    Fewer pat-downs and more due diligence, perhaps?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    How do you knew Deuce voted for Obama?
    Gimme' a break! Ok?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Gimme' a break! Ok?
    So was that...

    I know he did?

    Or I don't know he did?

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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You voted for an ultra-Liberal president and that's exactly what you got.

    Profiling is illegal and that's the way you want it. It's profling to target an African Muslim, whose name is on the no-fly list and paid for a one-way ticket, with cash and didn't have any luggage. That wasn't enough evidence for them to decided that he didn't need to board an aircraft. Instead, they insist that if they had played with his sack for a few minutes, they would have caught him red-handed.
    No, it's racial profiling to target someone for having brown skin.

    I don't think I've ever heard a liberal speak out against psychological profiling or behavioral profiling.

    Obama isn't ultra-liberal. You, and many conservatives these days, are just incapable of telling the difference between "I think we should keep the feds involved in education" and "COMMUNISM FOR ALL! MUAHAHAH!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Was SNL ever on the TSA's side!?
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    Re: Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, it's racial profiling to target someone for having brown skin.

    I don't think I've ever heard a liberal speak out against psychological profiling or behavioral profiling.

    Obama isn't ultra-liberal. You, and many conservatives these days, are just incapable of telling the difference between "I think we should keep the feds involved in education" and "COMMUNISM FOR ALL! MUAHAHAH!"



    Was SNL ever on the TSA's side!?
    You wanted a system, that picks on everyone and doesn't make anyone feel like they've been singled out, because of whatever. The only way to do that is to select 7 y/o American boys for random strip searches, so we can say how PC we are and how we treat everyone equally.

    Well, you got exatly what you asked for. So, stop bitching about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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