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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Is that really the only argument ya'll have to defend Obama?
    I was talking about his posts. Not Obama. Nice try though.

    Wonder if you could actually address my original post apdst, would have been a better way to debate wouldn't it... since I posted facts and a commentary to support it.

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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    The bright side of selling arms to potential enemies, is that we're the only ones they can get spare parts from when the weapons start wearing out. Plus, we have a better knowledge of how to defend against our own weapons than we do weapons from another country.
    Interesting points, though I'm not so sure punk nations wouldn't be below making their own spares.

    If EMI Studios could dismantle, adapt and improve equipment bought from other people, I'm sure an entire arms industry could do the same.

    Still, sticks in your throat to think that your own side could be shot at with our own guns. I remember a massive Arms To Iraq scandal under the leadership of Margaret Thatcher's successor John Major.

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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    Interesting points, though I'm not so sure punk nations wouldn't be above making their own spares.

    If EMI Studios could dismantle, adapt and improve equipment bought from other people, I'm sure an entire arms industry could do the same.

    Still, sticks in your throat to think that your own side could be shot at with our own guns. I remember a massive Arms To Iraq scandal under the leadership of Margaret Thatcher's successor John Major.
    Saudi Arabia does not currently have the industrial capability to make the spare parts for the F15 or Apache helicopters (or at least the more important parts like electronics and engines)
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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    Yeah, that makes sense if the logic flows all the way.

    They've got all that oil money but still have their people live in dirt poverty.

    (Though our stupid governments have still given them money in 'aid' because they're 'too poor'! And this despite the nation having its OWN aid programme, same with India! What mugs we are!)

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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    Yeah, that makes sense if the logic flows all the way.

    They've got all that oil money but still have their people live in dirt poverty.

    (Though our stupid governments have still given them money in 'aid' because they're 'too poor'! And this despite the nation having its OWN aid programme, same with India! What mugs we are!)
    The Saudis, with the possible exception of its shia population do not live in dirt poverty. They are rather wealthy and as such tend not to take on the more physically demanding jobs of manufacturing

    Lastly the US and UK do not provide Saudi Arabia with aid money. The US provides alot of aid to Israel, Egypt and Jordan, but not to Saudi Arabia
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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    I have no problem with the sale. America should be willing to sell weapons to most countries and groups. Making advanced weapons systems is one of the only things Americans do well any more.

    These weapons are less threatening in Saudi hands than we realize. The Saudi military is not based on competence. It's based on connections. It's like having new toys that one doesn't know how to operate to maximum efficiency.

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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    It's very interesting the US cut aid as late as 2007.

    And with the Saudis demanding foreign aid if global dependence on oil dries up, they prove to be just one more bunch of oily (pardon the pun) chancers wanting to dip their own hands in the West's heavy pockets.

    Saudis want aid if world cuts oil dependence - U.S. news - Environment - Climate Change - msnbc.com

    You would have thought all the oil cash would buy a few piggy banks. But no, the average taxpayer will have to fund them, which they doubtles will.
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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    It's very interesting the US cut aid as late as 2007.

    And with the Saudis demanding foreign aid if global dependence on oil dries up, they prove to be just one more bunch of oily (pardon the pun) chancers wanting to dip their own hands in the West's heavy pockets.

    Saudis want aid if world cuts oil dependence - U.S. news - Environment - Climate Change - msnbc.com

    You would have thought all the oil cash would buy a few piggy banks. But no, the average taxpayer will have to fund them, which they doubtles will.

    Opps my mistake I missed the MASSIVE 2.5 million dollars in aid the US provided to Saudi Arabia. I am sure that Saudi Arabia missed that 0.01% or so addition to its economy



    I am sure compared to the billions that Egypt, Israel and Jordan get, the Saudi's are truely upset at that loss of 2.5 million ( I think the various saudi royal family members spend far more then that each year when living in the US)
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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Why would anyone ever question Obama's motives for selling $60 billion worth of modern arms to a potential enemy of our only true friend in the region?

    Oh that's right Israel was our only friend until Obama came along.
    Yeah because Bush really hated those Saudis:

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    Re: Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I was talking about his posts. Not Obama. Nice try though.

    Wonder if you could actually address my original post apdst, would have been a better way to debate wouldn't it... since I posted facts and a commentary to support it.
    It would be a better debate, if you would stop claiming that everyone who isn't an Obamabot, is a racist.
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