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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Here. Does this seem like something worth looking into? Or are we going to keep turning a blind eye to possible corruption? I hope the Republican's really do put a new face on Washington. The one it's wearing now is really ugly.

    .Zombie Pigford v. Glickman: 86,000 claims from 39,697 total farmers?
    scooped again, and again, you've gone further than i, you're ahead of me

    thanks

    what exactly did the sherrod's new communities do, or, better, exactly what was done to them, to warrant their being awarded 12.8M gratis from ag

    and why the 330K for mental anguish

    sounds awfully soft to me

    either way, she should never have been fired, one of the white house's most weak kneed moments, and there have been quite a few of those

    thanks for the intel, friend, knowledge is power

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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The Indians claim is not discrimination, but missappropriation of royalties owed to them by the Federal government (money the government handled due to use of Indian lands for mining, agriculture use dating back to the late 1800's
    In that case, I would imagine that most of the earlier claims are time-barred, and they're just being mentioned by the press as additional color for the story.

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    Did you ever see a comedian named Kevin Meaney who was mildly big about a dozen years ago? He used to do this routine on stage where he would talk about the concerns some folks had about certain things that sounded legit and had merit. Then he would say something like "and you know how i feel about that?" And the band would break out into tune and he would sing the old song I don't care, I don't care, I don't care I don't care I don't care". And he would repeat that poking fun at the objections to an otherwise solid idea or point.

    I guess that is how I feel about the whole statute of limitations thing and the Native Americans. When you consider what was done to them, I really don't care about the statute or if it was honored or not.
    You're still not answering my question.

    "If one of my ancestors was part of a group that was systematically screwed by a government 500 years ago, should I get a check in the mail?"

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    Michelle Bachmann: "Whether or not this is an impeachable offense is one that the Congress would have to make a determination on."

    That's impeachment talk, ain't it?
    One person talking about impeachment =/= "impeachment is on the table."
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    One person talking about impeachment =/= "impeachment is on the table."
    that should go without saying, thanks

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    "If one of my ancestors was part of a group that was systematically screwed by a government 500 years ago, should I get a check in the mail?"
    Let me be blunt and direct about this. All of us probably had family who got screwed by the system somewhere down the line. I admit that. But what we did to the Native Americans is of such a magnitude and disgrace that I believe it trumps any complains you or I might have.

    Is that a legal principle you can build a case on? Nope. But it is how i feel about this. And the law be damned.
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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    Let me be blunt and direct about this. All of us probably had family who got screwed by the system somewhere down the line. I admit that. But what we did to the Native Americans is of such a magnitude and disgrace that I believe it trumps any complains you or I might have.
    And you're basing this on...?

    Unless you're arguing that the US's treatment of NA's was more brutal than any government's treatment of anyone else in history, this is an absolutely untenable position.

    Is that a legal principle you can build a case on? Nope. But it is how i feel about this. And the law be damned.
    Well, fortunately the legal system doesn't operate based on irrational emotion.
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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Michelle Bachmann: "Whether or not this is an impeachable offense is one that the Congress would have to make a determination on."

    That's impeachment talk, ain't it?

    Well, as someone already said, one rep doesn't speak for the entire body. But if there is something there I am sure you wouldn't want it overlooked just because it is Obama we are speaking of would you?


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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, as someone already said, one rep doesn't speak for the entire body. But if there is something there I am sure you wouldn't want it overlooked just because it is Obama we are speaking of would you?


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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    I can't wait to see where Obama and the Senate get 22,974,655 mules to give to black people not to mention 40 acres of arable land to each of them, but then with today's technology they can grow in the desert and since the Federal Government owns most of Nevada they can have that. This is based on the promise of Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman in January 1865 and we might want to revisit it now that Mr. Apologize is in the house .

    This is political correctness has run amuck and sooner or later it has got to be stopped or it will either kill this Nation the rest of the way or I fear there will be a very Violent backlash.

    I believe they did this because in court the Plaintiffs might have had to prove damages and they can't because they were not even born.
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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post


    Well, fortunately the legal system doesn't operate based on irrational emotion.
    Wouldn't it be wonderful, RinNYC, if that was true?

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    Re: Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I can't wait to see where Obama and the Senate get 22,974,655 mules to give to black people not to mention 40 acres of arable land to each of them, but then with today's technology they can grow in the desert and since the Federal Government owns most of Nevada they can have that. This is based on the promise of Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman in January 1865 and we might want to revisit it now that Mr. Apologize is in the house .

    This is political correctness has run amuck and sooner or later it has got to be stopped or it will either kill this Nation the rest of the way or I fear there will be a very Violent backlash.

    I believe they did this because in court the Plaintiffs might have had to prove damages and they can't because they were not even born.
    Alaska has alot of land too.

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