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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    from politico above, yesterday:
    Which speaks to my point how? You ahve to do more than quote things that don't address the point.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    so we are on the same team then, in a way.
    I agree it's broken, our premiums are more and we get less. And forget dental, its not even worth having anymore.
    Universal health care (single payer) is different than this phony thing, I agree.

    if the government wants to run health care, and we all get it for a fair percentage of our wages, I dont mind paying more than the clerk at the grocery store.
    for the same coverage.
    My problem is strictly with the thought, and high probability that this could be just another social program.
    With increasing numbers of people not playing fair these days its a recipe for disaster.

    And I also agree that maybe doing something will at least get the ball rolling.
    But I dont see the good start that you see, thats all I'm saying my friend.
    Then we're not that far apart. I will only make one correction. I didn't say it as a good start (at least not in terms of quality). I said it was a start, and I prefer that over standing pat.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I don't think the disagreement over the ground zero mosque was along party lines.
    gun rights yes, because the tea party wants our gov. to uphold the constitution.
    death penality, not so sure.
    The tea party is made up of all kinds of peoples except for maybe no liberals or farther left than them, because they believe in big government and high taxes.
    Yes, I can see where some races would have been run on immigration.
    Republicans and most Independents Iincluding me) took a strong stand against the Ground Zero Mosque, and againt Stealth Jihadists like Feisal Abdul Rauf and Daisy Khan. Obama brushed it off and simply said it wasn't wise. That's like saying he agreed with theot mission, but not their tactic. He and other Democrats should have condemned the whole thing. They didn't.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't say it as a good start (at least not in terms of quality). I said it was a start, and I prefer that over standing pat.
    LOL!

    sure, why should anyone expect starts to be good starts

    good thinking, barrister

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    sure, why should anyone expect starts to be good starts

    good thinking, barrister
    I don't believe you even want a good start. You would prefer no start, right? That would be the difference and the point.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't believe you even want a good start. You would prefer no start, right? That would be the difference and the point.
    I don't think you have ever answered the question as to your expectations from the Federal Govt. and their role in personal responsibility issues? How about giving us your vision and why you believe that the Federal Govt. has a role in your state or local communities?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't think you have ever answered the question as to your expectations from the Federal Govt. and their role in personal responsibility issues? How about giving us your vision and why you believe that the Federal Govt. has a role in your state or local communities?
    Meaning, I'm correct.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Meaning, I'm correct.
    Correct about what? you think the Federal govt. getting involved in healthcare is a good thing so apparently you believe in a large central govt. that takes on personal responsibility issues, like healthcare? I just wondered where you learned that and why you believe the Federal Govt. can do better than the state and local governments along with charities? I was wondering how you in Iowa was paying for emergency room service in TX?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Correct about what? you think the Federal govt. getting involved in healthcare is a good thing so apparently you believe in a large central govt. that takes on personal responsibility issues, like healthcare? I just wondered where you learned that and why you believe the Federal Govt. can do better than the state and local governments along with charities? I was wondering how you in Iowa was paying for emergency room service in TX?
    Yep, I do think we need national reform and not just state reform. I've explained why a few time to you. Would doing it again really matter?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep, I do think we need national reform and not just state reform. I've explained why a few time to you. Would doing it again really matter?
    Probably not because I believe in states and local govt. handling state and local issues. Since you don't fund emergency room services in my state or any other than your own your state I don't understand why you would delegate the responsibility for individual care to the Federal Bureaucrats?

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