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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Show me proof of that
    I was unaware anyone didn't know this.

    The US turned a blind eye to the former Iraq regime's $8bn trade in smuggled oil, a new US Senate report says.
    The report says the US was well aware of both the smuggling and the kickbacks Iraq solicited from players in the UN's oil-for-food programme.


    BBC NEWS | Americas | US 'ignored Iraq oil smuggling'

    Documents obtained by CNN reveal the United States knew about, and even condoned, embargo-breaking oil sales by Saddam Hussein's regime, and did so to shore up alliances with Iraq's neighbors.

    Documents: U.S. condoned Iraq oil smuggling - CNN

    ''The tendency has been to turn a blind eye because the Turks are benefiting from it at a time when the Turks are complaining anyway about sanctions on Iraq,'' one Administration official said. The smuggling is creating jobs and helping the economy of southern Turkey, which has been badly hurt by the trade sanctions. ''While Saddam is making money on it, the Turks and Kurds are too,'' the official said.

    IRAQ IS SMUGGLING OIL TO THE TURKS UNDER GAZE OF U.S. - NYTimes.com

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You should visit one, especially in large cities, and you might well have an education.
    My son is on medicaid and goes to the county health department I have been there several times. The health care is sub standard, there are few specialist that take medicaid and the doctors at the health department are over worked.

    My son is Autistic and medicaid does not cover dental. We are looking at a sedation dentist to have his teeth cleaned and checked. I have to take him for a surgery physical and put down a $2500 deposit. That does not include if he has cavities

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was unaware anyone didn't know this.

    The US turned a blind eye to the former Iraq regime's $8bn trade in smuggled oil, a new US Senate report says.
    The report says the US was well aware of both the smuggling and the kickbacks Iraq solicited from players in the UN's oil-for-food programme.


    BBC NEWS | Americas | US 'ignored Iraq oil smuggling'

    Documents obtained by CNN reveal the United States knew about, and even condoned, embargo-breaking oil sales by Saddam Hussein's regime, and did so to shore up alliances with Iraq's neighbors.

    Documents: U.S. condoned Iraq oil smuggling - CNN

    ''The tendency has been to turn a blind eye because the Turks are benefiting from it at a time when the Turks are complaining anyway about sanctions on Iraq,'' one Administration official said. The smuggling is creating jobs and helping the economy of southern Turkey, which has been badly hurt by the trade sanctions. ''While Saddam is making money on it, the Turks and Kurds are too,'' the official said.

    IRAQ IS SMUGGLING OIL TO THE TURKS UNDER GAZE OF U.S. - NYTimes.com
    Not surprised the democrat leaked the documents. Notice it is the Clinton admiistration that turned the blind eye. It was the Bush Administraion that put a stop to it.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    My son is on medicaid and goes to the county health department I have been there several times. The health care is sub standard, there are few specialist that take medicaid and the doctors at the health department are over worked.

    My son is Autistic and medicaid does not cover dental. We are looking at a sedation dentist to have his teeth cleaned and checked. I have to take him for a surgery physical and put down a $2500 deposit. That does not include if he has cavities
    That's better than a free clinic. And for many, that $2500 would be prohibative, and that means it would not be done.



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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Not surprised the democrat leaked the documents. Notice it is the Clinton admiistration that turned the blind eye. It was the Bush Administraion that put a stop to it.
    It was done before clinton if you read it. And republicans were also aware. And Bush didn't put an end to it until he decided to invade. But you're skipping the point. regardless of who was in power, that was the US government, so I ask again: does that mean that the US government can't be trusted?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's better than a free clinic. And for many, that $2500 would be prohibative, and that means it would not be done.



    FYI. Not sure where you live, but my wife works for a place here in Iowa called Opportunity Village.

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    This is government healthcare. Welcome to Obama care. How is it better when you can not find a specialist that accept medicaid?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It was done before clinton if you read it. And republicans were also aware. And Bush didn't put an end to it until he decided to invade. But you're skipping the point. regardless of who was in power, that was the US government, so I ask again: does that mean that the US government can't be trusted?
    From you NY Times link

    But the Clinton Administration has decided not to try to stop the smuggling even though the United States is trying to hold together a coalition in support of economic sanctions against Iraq.

    Pretty much I don't trust the government. Do you?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was unaware anyone didn't know this.

    The US turned a blind eye to the former Iraq regime's $8bn trade in smuggled oil, a new US Senate report says.
    The report says the US was well aware of both the smuggling and the kickbacks Iraq solicited from players in the UN's oil-for-food programme.


    BBC NEWS | Americas | US 'ignored Iraq oil smuggling'
    So, Carl Levin with new found majority status felt it necessary to investigate what he says was known about US apathy to OIF? Doesn't make sense.

    Documents obtained by CNN reveal the United States knew about, and even condoned, embargo-breaking oil sales by Saddam Hussein's regime, and did so to shore up alliances with Iraq's neighbors.

    Documents: U.S. condoned Iraq oil smuggling - CNN
    I see, so Jordan had no other viable alternative to Iraqi oil, and between them and Turkey were giving us intel on Iraq, so we should have cut them off. I see....Seems pretty thin if you ask me.

    ''The tendency has been to turn a blind eye because the Turks are benefiting from it at a time when the Turks are complaining anyway about sanctions on Iraq,'' one Administration official said. The smuggling is creating jobs and helping the economy of southern Turkey, which has been badly hurt by the trade sanctions. ''While Saddam is making money on it, the Turks and Kurds are too,'' the official said.

    IRAQ IS SMUGGLING OIL TO THE TURKS UNDER GAZE OF U.S. - NYTimes.com
    From your own article here: "The officials say the Clinton Administration has chosen to look the other way..."

    So I think I get it....During that time the far left was screaming how we were starving the children of Iraq, and when the tide shifted and Bush came in and unseated Hussein, and caught that austere body, the UN, with their hand in the cookie jar, they had to look for scapegoats instead of admitting that they were, are, and continue to be corrupt. Got it.


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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You should visit one, especially in large cities, and you might well have an education.
    Yeah, it's a vision of what universal healthcare would end up like. No thanks.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yeah, it's a vision of what universal healthcare would end up like. No thanks.
    Factually, no, you're incorrect here.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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