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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    We may have some of the best doctors and facilities in the world, but it does not mean we have the best healthcare. In fact, we are #37 on your WHO listening dial.

    The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

    I don't think we will make the playoffs. Time to fire the coach.

    The problem is the system does not work for the average citizen. Jetboogie's graphic well illustrates the problem: we have the most expensive healthcare system in the world and it produces mediocre results.

    Nonsense. Spouting UN rankings that unfairly rank the health systems around the world according to whom has the most socialized medicine, and throwing in homicides for the US as an indicator is hardly what I would consider objective.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy
    We may have some of the best doctors and facilities in the world, but it does not mean we have the best healthcare. In fact, we are #37 on your WHO listening dial.

    The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

    I don't think we will make the playoffs. Time to fire the coach.

    The problem is the system does not work for the average citizen. Jetboogie's graphic well illustrates the problem: we have the most expensive healthcare system in the world and it produces mediocre results.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. Spouting UN rankings that unfairly rank the health systems around the world according to whom has the most socialized medicine, and throwing in homicides for the US as an indicator is hardly what I would consider objective.

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    WHY... do people insist on touting the UN rankings, when they are a freaking decade old, and the UN doesn;t even bother anymore?!?!?!!!
    The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Makes it easier to ignore when you write thigns off that way.
    Not writing off. The UN does things like oil for food scam with Saddam and their workers rape innocent women. The UN tells lies and manipulates data to promote Global Warming. There is much corruption and biased attitudes in the UN.

    This organization is not credible and a useless bunch of political hacks

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    WHY... do people insist on touting the UN rankings, when they are a freaking decade old, and the UN doesn;t even bother anymore?!?!?!!!
    Not much for the better has changed in the decade. But the meaning of the numbers do speak to what we value, what we define as better. if access to adequate care is the standard, and for me it is, than we don't fair all that well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Not writing off. The UN does things like oil for food scam with Saddam and their workers rape innocent women. The UN tells lies and manipulates data to promote Global Warming. There is much corruption and biased attitudes in the UN.

    This organization is not credible and a useless bunch of political hacks
    So, anyone who does something wrong, like say the US government allowing Saddam to suggle oil, loses all ceredibility and can't be trusted, . . . is that what you're saying?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Call whatever you will, but we can call all politicians liars, and we accept that. But let's not pretend all lies are equal. And I notice you never addressed what I actually said.
    I did any UN linked organization is not believable and has no credibility. Just like UNICEF is supposed to help kids yet it promotes abortion

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, anyone who does something wrong, like say the US government allowing Saddam to suggle oil, loses all ceredibility and can't be trusted, . . . is that what you're saying?
    The US was not involved in the oil for food scam

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I did any UN linked organization is not believable and has no credibility. Just like UNICEF is supposed to help kids yet it promotes abortion
    Did you hit the right quote? If not, read above and try again.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The US was not involved in the oil for food scam
    No, they were involved in the smuggling. We turned a blind eye even though we knew. So, I ask again: So, anyone who does something wrong, like say the US government allowing Saddam to suggle oil, loses all ceredibility and can't be trusted, . . . is that what you're saying?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not much for the better has changed in the decade. But the meaning of the numbers do speak to what we value, what we define as better. if access to adequate care is the standard, and for me it is, than we don't fair all that well.
    Who is turned away in America from any ER?


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