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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, oh....I see a pattern here....When Joe can't honestly debate something, he reverts to this small minded little insult. It's called trolling Joe, keep it up.


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    Yep, whenever someone can't see what is clearly written, like in post 254, and their comments make absolutely no logical sense, I reply with "drugs are bad, ok . . . " That's not trolling j. And you commenting on behavior is likey more of a rules violation. But as I just did that with you, we both might want to be careful.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    afghanistan is a disaster

    biden moved the DROP DEAD DATE for withdrawal to 2014

    The Page by Mark Halperin | Biden: 2014 “Drop Dead Date”

    more americans have been killed over there since obama took over than 01 to 08 combined, 55 in november

    iCasualties | Operation Enduring Freedom | Afghanistan

    for what?

    wapo's watergate wonderboy wrote it's all about politics (and incompetence) in his characteristic voice of judgement, OBAMA'S WARS

    Bob Woodward book details Obama battles with advisers over exit plan for Afghan war

    tragic
    When you won't let troops fight a war like you're supposed to fight a war.......you get this.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Protectionist View Post
    I am a registered Independent. I, and millions of other Independents, voted for Republicans because of a variety of issues. Tax cuts for the rich most certainly was not one of them. We voted for Republicans because of immigration, Islamization, gun control, death penalty, etc. The only people who would vote for tax cuts for the rich are the rich themselves (if they are that greedy), and paid-off politicians who kiss their asses.
    Polls now bear this out. Only 1/4 of the American people support tax cuts for the rich. Even lots of Republicans are wise to the gangster boys in the capitol like McConnell and Boehner.
    As for the harm to business from these tax cuts > BS. Taxes were at all time highs (82 - 94%) on the highest income bracket (1944 - 1963), and this was a time of prosperity. By the same token, Bush lowered tax rates down to 35% in 2003, and the economy has been a dud ever since.
    I find the red part quite odd. No one ran on any of the issues last election. The Tea party sure isn't in agreement on them. What they agree on is low taxes, fiscal accountability, smaller government and the Constitution. They purposely avoided the things you said you voted on.
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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    When you won't let troops fight a war like you're supposed to fight a war.......you get this.
    Explain. As I recall, the commanders got exactly what they asked for in the Afghan surge.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, do you even understand what is being said. I most certainly have given eamples a few times, and you don't have to go back any further than post 254 to read them. I'm serious begining to question the two you and your reading ability.

    But let me ask a simple question, what do you think I'm suppose to give examples of?
    How I exaggerated, Do you deny often defending Obama policies?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    How I exaggerated, Do you deny often defending Obama policies?
    because I believe in some of his policies. But that isn't where you stop. Read your quote again.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Explain. As I recall, the commanders got exactly what they asked for in the Afghan surge.
    Obama impacted the manner in which they engage the enemy, including the time of day, ability to act immediately, etc. He put restrictions on them that make it hard to fight.

    We've lost more troops in Afghanistan since Obama took over than in all the years of Bush. Now, I don't mean to say that Obama is entirely responsible for that because different objections have different risks, but their ability to act freely as needed is a must.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Obama impacted the manner in which they engage the enemy, including the time of day, ability to act immediately, etc. He put restrictions on them that make it hard to fight.

    We've lost more troops in Afghanistan since Obama took over than in all the years of Bush. Now, I don't mean to say that Obama is entirely responsible for that because different objections have different risks, but their ability to act freely as needed is a must.
    you realize, Bush wasn't actually engaged in Afghanistan, so becoming more involved explains an increase in loss of lives. And most of the restrictions you speak of have been misrepresented by quite a few on these forms. They largely speak to not killing civilians, whose hearts and minds you can't win by killing them.

    However, he has been very consistent in letting the commanders have their way, and in doing so, making what I believe are huge mistakes. We need a clearer, more practical mission. We can't do enough nation building to make Afghanistan what we want. Instead, we shold back up and focus on aftey issues and internal Afghan affiars.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    you realize, Bush wasn't actually engaged in Afghanistan, so becoming more involved explains an increase in loss of lives. And most of the restrictions you speak of have been misrepresented by quite a few on these forms. They largely speak to not killing civilians, whose hearts and minds you can't win by killing them.

    However, he has been very consistent in letting the commanders have their way, and in doing so, making what I believe are huge mistakes. We need a clearer, more practical mission. We can't do enough nation building to make Afghanistan what we want. Instead, we shold back up and focus on aftey issues and internal Afghan affiars.
    Oh for cripes sake, you don't actually support Obama's war do you?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Oh for cripes sake, you don't actually support Obama's war do you?
    I've been around a long time, and have a history ofn saying even during the Bush adminstration that Afghanistan masde some sense. It was going on the snipe hunt in Iraq that bothered me most. It was the sningle most reckless move in the last few decades.

    That said, I think I stated clearly what I have a problem with and what I think should be done.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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