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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    either you are naive or you are expecting me to be with this crap.
    Neither, I believe this "crap" to be true. As we can overthrow the government every election cycle, we are the government. No kings. No dictators. No rulers. We elect leaders to represent us and can remove them.


    Your non representing representatives don't think so, that is why you demo's lost.

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    Well, we may have a difference of opinion as the why those who lost lost, and why those who won won, but you prove my point. The people made the choice and some "government." We are the government j. We have a voice. No theft is involved.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Then abolish the IRS.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then abolish the IRS.

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    I didn't follow that leap. Walk me through it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't follow that leap. Walk me through it.
    If we are truly the government, then we can demand that the IRS be abolished, right?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    I thought Nancy Pelosi said that the Bush tax cuts did not include the middle class.

    She said they were only for the wealthy. And now she's talking about extending the tax cuts for the middle class. Hmmm.

    Republicans need to be careful here. The Dems are trying mightily to separate the cuts for the higher brackets from the rest of the cuts, so LATER they can call them specifically tax cuts for the rich, which then they kind of will be.

    The Bush tax cuts need to be extended in their entirety. (In fact, they need to be cut further.)

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    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If we are truly the government, then we can demand that the IRS be abolished, right?

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    You can vote for representative who can do that, yes. Start a movement.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    senators bayh, nelson, conrad, lieberman and webb are all on record---extend bush tax cuts to ALL americans

    Democrats unlikely to repeal tax cuts for the rich | McClatchy

    landrieu, lincoln, baucus and michael bennet from colorado have, as well, expressed serious reservations

    conrad is chair of budget, baucus is the gatekeeper at finance

    ie, you can't get anywhere without them

    the point is moot, after mcconnell's handwritten letter yesterday to reid on behalf of the united 42

    it is what it is

    ie, get real

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts


    Fact Check.org
    and PolitiFact are notoriously rotten sites to use unless you agree with the liberal line. They are unreliable.

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