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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So? I can find one who is ready to be spanked by a Swedish nurse in leather and nine inch heels because of this. Would that mean anything?

    Anyone who wants to find smething can. But it doesn't mean it is in significant enough numbers to matter.
    You don't think it is a problem in both quality, and quantity for long time doc's that have the experience to be saying that this law is basically forcing them out of business?


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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    from the chron:

    Texas doctors are opting out of Medicare at alarming rates, frustrated by reimbursement cuts they say make participation in government-funded care of seniors unaffordable.

    Two years after a survey found nearly half of Texas doctors weren't taking some new Medicare patients, new data shows 100 to 200 a year are now ending all involvement with the program. Before 2007, the number of doctors opting out averaged less than a handful a year.

    “This new data shows the Medicare system is beginning to implode,” said Dr. Susan Bailey, president of the Texas Medical Association. “If Congress doesn't fix Medicare soon, there'll be more and more doctors dropping out and Congress' promise to provide medical care to seniors will be broken.”

    More than 300 doctors have dropped the program in the last two years, including 50 in the first three months of 2010, according to data compiled by the Houston Chronicle. Texas Medical Association officials, who conducted the 2008 survey, said the numbers far exceeded their assumptions.
    from the times:

    Many people, just as they become eligible for Medicare, discover that the insurance rug has been pulled out from under them. Some doctors — often internists but also gastroenterologists, gynecologists, psychiatrists and other specialists — are no longer accepting Medicare, either because they have opted out of the insurance system or they are not accepting new patients with Medicare coverage. The doctors’ reasons: reimbursement rates are too low and paperwork too much of a hassle.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You don't think it is a problem in both quality, and quantity for long time doc's that have the experience to be saying that this law is basically forcing them out of business?


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    I don't believe it is. And I've seen no evidence that anything of the kind is actually happpening.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It appears Obama is not willing to compromise. Yet he expects others to

    Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts | Reuters

    With time running out and high political and economic stakes, Obama is pushing Democratic leaders to determine if they can win an acceptable extension of the cuts, which he could sign into law.

    Resurgent Republicans are demanding that all the tax cuts be renewed, including those for wealthier Americans -- individuals making more than $200,000 and families above$250,000.

    Obama favors renewing the tax cuts only for those at or below those level, saying the nation cannot afford to renew them for wealthier Americans.
    I just have to wonder if he understands "elections have consequences?"
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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I just have to wonder if he understands "elections have consequences?"
    Sure they do. I think everyone knows that. But so does extending the tax cuts. The consequence will be greater debt.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    YouTube - Obama White House Hands Out 111 Obamacare Waivers- Hides It on Website

    why do the 111 want out?

    why did hhs' sebelius let em go?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure they do. I think everyone knows that. But so does extending the tax cuts. The consequence will be greater debt.

    I don't think that liberal exaggeration helps here Boo.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

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    I don't think that liberal exaggeration helps here Boo.

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    Where am I exaggerating?

    A Republican plan to extend tax cuts for the rich would add more than $36 billion to the federal deficit next year -- and transfer the bulk of that cash into the pockets of the nation's millionaires, according to a congressional analysis released Wednesday.

    GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion to deficit, panel finds


    “Starve the Beast” Just Does Not Work | Cato @ Liberty

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Where am I exaggerating?

    A Republican plan to extend tax cuts for the rich would add more than $36 billion to the federal deficit next year -- and transfer the bulk of that cash into the pockets of the nation's millionaires, according to a congressional analysis released Wednesday.

    GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion to deficit, panel finds


    “Starve the Beast” Just Does Not Work | Cato @ Liberty

    Well, leave it to the WaPo to spin the WH line for Obama. Listen, in these times tax hikes on anyone is not the way to go. Now if demo's would be reasonable and say agree to extending them for a couple years until the nation is on more solid footing, then maybe we could talk. But this thief in the WH is hammering everyone at every turn.....READ THEIR BILLS!


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