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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Compromise to a radical liberal like Obama always means dropping your opposition, and seeing things his way.

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    Are you paying attention? Obama has compromised his position to the point he looks weak. The guy has had all the cards, yet continues to play like he has a weak hand. If Obama would have had 1/2 of the Bush swagger, he would not have lost the house and still have his job approval well north of 50%. Sorry, Obama;s idea of compromise is to fold.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Are you paying attention? Obama has compromised his position to the point he looks weak. The guy has had all the cards, yet continues to play like he has a weak hand. If Obama would have had 1/2 of the Bush swagger, he would not have lost the house and still have his job approval well north of 50%. Sorry, Obama;s idea of compromise is to fold.
    Obama has not folded on anything, he has locked out the GOP and rammed his agenda forward. He no longer can do that since he lost his senate fillibuster proof majority and the house.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama care will create a doctor shortage so things like MRI may take months to get. Then if Obama cuts medicare pay to doctors they will no longer accept it.
    Actually, the doctor shortage is artificial. And Obama's plan has in it some incentives to increase the number of doctors.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama has not folded on anything, he has locked out the GOP and rammed his agenda forward. He no longer can do that since he lost his senate fillibuster proof majority and the house.
    That would not be entirely true. We don't have a public option, and the mandate was a republican idea he adopted. There are others. So, while at one point the republicans were locked out, having shown no real interest in working on this, it would not be true that concessions weren't made.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, the doctor shortage is artificial. And Obama's plan has in it some incentives to increase the number of doctors.
    Seriously? Do you read what you write?

    Either the shortage is real or Obama is wasting everyone's time and money with unnecessary incentives.

    Which is it?

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Seriously? Do you read what you write?

    Either the shortage is real or Obama is wasting everyone's time and money with unnecessary incentives.

    Which is it?
    There's a shortage because we limit how many can go to medical school. Do a basic search and you'll find that I'm right. This healthcare bill has incentives to increase the number. Remember, there are seldom just two options.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    Interesting part of the article:

    A list of about 500 concierge doctors throughout the country is available on Dr. Knope’s Web site, www.conciergemedicinemd.com.
    Is the care worth the money? Harold and Margret Thomas, who are in their mid-70s and live in Cincinnati, spend the winter in Tucson. After many phone calls, the couple were unable to find an internist in Tucson who took new Medicare patients, so they signed with Dr. Knope in 1996. Five years ago, when Mrs. Thomas developed a blinding headache, her husband called the doctor at 8 o’clock one night, and he, suspecting an aneurysm, insisted they get to the emergency room immediately.
    The doctor met them and ordered an M.R.I. and a CT scan. The tests revealed an aneurysm, and Dr. Knope found a surgeon who quickly operated. Medicare paid for the emergency room, the surgery and the hospital stay.

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, the doctor shortage is artificial. And Obama's plan has in it some incentives to increase the number of doctors.
    Will Obamacare cause a doctor shortage? - The Week

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    Re: Obama's Democrats in disarray over expiring tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That would not be entirely true. We don't have a public option, and the mandate was a republican idea he adopted. There are others. So, while at one point the republicans were locked out, having shown no real interest in working on this, it would not be true that concessions weren't made.
    It is true Obama got what he wanted and it is a bad bill

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