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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Cultural relativism is a subset of moral relativism, which is simply a convenient excuse offered by intellectually lazy people who have run out of logical arguments. When faced with superior reasoning, their response is "Well, you see, since everything is relative.....", which is really just a brand of nihilism when it gets down to it. Nothing really matters because we cannot possibly make a value judgement.

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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Most lgbt folks are leftists who are in a political coalition with American Islamists. Islamic culture has specific strictures on the treatment of what Islamists think of as sinners.

    Islamic culture will grow in influence in America as it has in Western Europe. When that happens, my lgbt friends will face a level of hostility that they have not known for more than a generation. Lgbt folks should look at the existing period as the golden age. It too will pass.

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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Too many big words in there...

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    Should I then dispense with my planned dissertation upon the epistomology of meta-ethics with a particular emphasis on ethical naturalism?
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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Should I then dispense with my planned dissertation upon the epistomology of meta-ethics with a particular emphasis on ethical naturalism?
    Respect.

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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Most lgbt folks are leftists who are in a political coalition with American Islamists. Islamic culture has specific strictures on the treatment of what Islamists think of as sinners.

    Islamic culture will grow in influence in America as it has in Western Europe. When that happens, my lgbt friends will face a level of hostility that they have not known for more than a generation. Lgbt folks should look at the existing period as the golden age. It too will pass.
    Gold. Pure Gold.

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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You neglect to mention that the United States of America allowed this to happen -- since we have an ultimate veto. Terrible thing. We should be ashamed. There can be no other reason but political that we didn't exercise our veto power. Shame on us!!!!
    Wrong.

    First off this was a UN General Assembly panel. Here the US does NOT have veto power.

    Secondly the US has only veto power in the UN Security Council...

    Thirdly, the US is hardly the biggest defender of gay rights in the UN if I recall. The Bush administration would most likely have backed the change.... since....

    In turnaround, U.S. signs U.N. gay rights document | Reuters

    The United States, in a reversal of Bush administration policy, has decided to sign on to a U.N. declaration that calls for the decriminalization of homosexuality, the State Department said on Wednesday.
    In other words, before Obama came to power, the US was allied with the very nations that got this removed via the UN panel.
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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sometimes you just want to slap the UN. Like, all of them at the same time, with some sort of massive robo-glove.
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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Wrong.

    First off this was a UN General Assembly panel. Here the US does NOT have veto power.

    Secondly the US has only veto power in the UN Security Council...

    Thirdly, the US is hardly the biggest defender of gay rights in the UN if I recall. The Bush administration would most likely have backed the change.... since....

    In turnaround, U.S. signs U.N. gay rights document | Reuters



    In other words, before Obama came to power, the US was allied with the very nations that got this removed via the UN panel.
    Apparently you didn't read the entire article.

    The fear was that this law would be used to effect policy in the United States regarding Gay marriage. As BHO has already claimed he shares the same opinion as George Bush regarding Gay marriage this would appear to be a rather foolish move.

    On the other hand, perhaps he was lying about his opposition. That seems a solid bet.

    And let's keep in mind that under the Bush Administration, more money was contributed towards AIDS research and precautions than from any other country in the world. Over $15 billion. That hardly makes him or the American people anti Gay.

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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

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    This is the first time I've looked at a post of yours and said '****ing A!!! You go, Duece!'
    And then you go a misspell his name.
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    Re: U.N. panel cuts gay reference from violence measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Apparently you didn't read the entire article.

    The fear was that this law would be used to effect policy in the United States regarding Gay marriage. As BHO has already claimed he shares the same opinion as George Bush regarding Gay marriage this would appear to be a rather foolish move.

    On the other hand, perhaps he was lying about his opposition. That seems a solid bet.

    And let's keep in mind that under the Bush Administration, more money was contributed towards AIDS research and precautions than from any other country in the world. Over $15 billion. That hardly makes him or the American people anti Gay.
    While I do applaud Bush's support for AIDS research and treatment around the world, that was largely spent in African nations where AIDS has a much greater effect in the heterosexual community than in the practically non-existant gay community. Indeed, if you look at the statistics, you'll note that in South Africa (where the disease is most prevalent), men who have sex with men is a statistically insignificant number.

    Now, that could be because of the very thing we're talking about in this thread (although, South Africa is the only African nation to decriminalize homosexuality AND constitutionally grant same-sex marriage rights) and gay men are afraid to report, but everything I've ever read about HIV in Africa is that it's a "straight" problem.

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