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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    Perhaps reprinting the rest of my post will offer a more complete explanation that the cherry picked line you selected.
    No. It actually accentuates my point, because you actually explain your own dishonesty within it.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    So liberals think 99 weeks of unemployment benefits - almost TWO YEARS - is justified?

    If you can't find a job in two years, you aren't even trying in the least.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So liberals think 99 weeks of unemployment benefits - almost TWO YEARS - is justified?

    If you can't find a job in two years, you aren't even trying in the least.
    Actually that was extended another 26 weeks earlier this year so it is now over two years. Supporters will not answer the question as to how long the taxpayer should fund the unemployed since apparently two years isn't enough.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    Show me a single person who's been doing that?

    Seems when you have nothing to add, you start adding that Liberals add race when they don't so you can make them look bad.

    So basically you guys are the ones that add race.
    Janeanne Garofallo, Haymarket, for starters.

    You're being very obtuse. I can't blame you, though, since the, "yooz-a-racist", strategy has blown up ya'll faces.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Zyphlin - certainly you do understand that the type of GOP press release you are pointing to does not reach the vast majority of actual voters and is only intended for the washington talkign heads and politico types like us here? That Pledge is irrelevant at best.
    The Pledge and the Contract both highlight what the Republicans were campaigning on. This directly correlates to the later part of my post speaking about voter trust on various issues. You can't say that when a majority of voters trust and prefer the Republicans for the economy and for taxes and I clearly show you what the Republicans platform is that somehow those people don't actually support the Republican positions on those issues.

    The polls have said that the election was a repudiation of Democrats and Obama. I suspect that is because the GOP did a wonderful job of putting an evil Halloween costume on both and selling that idea to their core base while much of the Obama base stayed home.
    You're ****ing kidding me right?

    I give you poll data. SPECIFIC poll data. Detailing SPECIFICALLY that voters SPECIFICALLY prefered that ALL the tax cuts remain in place conducted by a bipartisan polling group consisting on one side of substantial Democratic figures...and you give me this horse**** without anything to back up your assertions, show how your assertion counters the information I posted, or even comment on what I actually did post?

    Give me a break. Stay on with your childish conspiracy theories and notions about halloween costumes and whatever other BS. I'm actually here to talk to people that want to have a real debate, not someone whose responses may as well be coming out of a robot that looks for keywords and spits back out generic responses based on those rather than what's actually being said.

    This highlights exactly why I generally refrain from actually taking the time, effort, and energy to make detailed and research posts aimed at hyper partisans because they do nothing as anything that interacts negatively with thier fragile and manufactured worldview of talking points and blind ideology is immedietely ignored or responded back with unthinking regurgitation of blog notes and lines.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No. It actually accentuates my point, because you actually explain your own dishonesty within it.
    If you got off your own ideological high horse for a minute and actually read and then comprehended what I wrote I admit that the language can be applied incorrectly. So what? It is what it is. Does that stop you from using Tea Party incorrectly when there is no Tea Party? I doubt it.

    Your own sainted GOP spokespeople themselves have been using the term "tax cuts" regarding this issue for weeks and weeks now. Do you criticize them for doing so or is this saved for the armies of the other side?

    And I do not think you have any point - at least one of any merit other than trying to attack me solely because I do not worship before the same altar that you do. That screams in almost every post you make to me. It is more than obvious.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you got off your own ideological high horse for a minute and actually read and then comprehended what I wrote I admit that the language can be applied incorrectly.


    Yes. You're saying everyone's wrong, you're right, and the plain language -- and actual fucntionality -- of the legislation means something other than what it actually says it does in order for you to claim that 1) the Bush legislation "raises taxes" and 2) as such, extending the current tax rates is actually "cutting taxes."

    Fortunately, there are those of us who are here to point out your dishonesty on the matter.

    So what? It is what it is. Does that stop you from using Tea Party incorrectly when there is no Tea Party? I doubt it.
    I guess you'll have to point out where I used it incorrectly.


    Your own sainted GOP spokespeople
    You're going to have to figure out exactly which ideology you wish to claim I subscribe to, because you can't seem to keep it consistent.

    themselves have been using the term "tax cuts" regarding this issue for weeks and weeks now. Do you criticize them for doing so or is this saved for the armies of the other side?
    Well, if they're using the term correctly, as in "extending the tax cuts from 2001 and 2003," then there's nothing to criticize, because those were actual cuts.

    And I do not think you have any point - at least one of any merit other than trying to attack me solely because I do not worship before the same altar that you do. That screams in almost every post you make to me. It is more than obvious.
    If you have this much of a problem with people disagreeing with you and challenging what you post, then a site called "Debate Politics" probably isn't your best choice.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Harshaw - its hopeless to try to discuss anything reasonable with you because you and I do not live in the same reality. I accept that the current discussion around the expiring tax cuts and possible extension of some of them is called BY BOTH SIDES "tax cuts". Both Republicans and Democrats in both the House and the Senate as well as the Obama administration as well as many talking heads on TV including FOX and MSNBC all use the same terminology. And the terminology being used by all is "tax cuts".

    I compared this to the use of the term "Tea Party" by people here, people on other sites, writers and broadcasters in the media and just about everywhere. There is no Tea Party. It does not exist. I would love to see one come into being and get on the ballot and campaign for office but it has not happened yet. But that does not stop the widespread use of a term that is inaccurate.

    I do NOT have a problem with you or anyone disagreeing with what I post. I only have a problem with this far less than adult Sharks vs. Jets mentality that seems to exist here and is subscribed to by far too many including yourself.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Boy do you miss the point here. My post dealt with the public relations nightmare the GOP has advocating for two things that make them look like greedy misers wanting all they can get for themselves and their richer constituents while taking the axe to those actually in need. And the entire time they do this they are crying and whining about debts and deficits while their own willingness to help the richest would be the most costly item of these. Its pure hypocrisy.

    I will not waste my or anyones time attempting to convince you that you live in a society with other people and may have obligations to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Thank you for discontinuing the waste of our time.
    You are welcome. I have learned that they are some people that you simply cannot convince that they are not an island unto themselves.
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