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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    If you ran a business then you know that payroll is the highest expense of running that business. Noticed you didn't address the questions I raised.
    I no longer run a business. I do know quite well what it means to invest your own money, your own time and your own labor in a business. i know what it means to put your name on a loan agreement putting up everything you own and ever hope to own because you believe in yourself and your business plan. And i know that every business always has had changing problems, changing situations and nothing about tomorrow is promised to anyone. And I knew that when I had my business and did well with it and accepted it and did not use it as an excuse not to succeed.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    I no longer run a business. I do know quite well what it means to invest your own money, your own time and your own labor in a business. i know what it means to put your name on a loan agreement putting up everything you own and ever hope to own because you believe in yourself and your business plan. And i know that every business always has had changing problems, changing situations and nothing about tomorrow is promised to anyone. And I knew that when I had my business and did well with it and accepted it and did not use it as an excuse not to succeed.
    Great, now how about answering the questions I raised?

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    please restate them as i thought my posts covered it in stating that nobody knows the future
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    please restate them as i thought my posts covered it in stating that nobody knows the future
    I have run a business and can tell you that employees costs are the highest operating expenses of any business. What is Obamacare going to cost a small business for each employee? What is that small business' tax rates going to be next year? would you hire an employee with those uncertainties?

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    What is Obamacare going to cost a small business for each employee?
    I thought I explained that I am NO LONGER in business and as such do not have the facts on this to provide to you. And as I also thought I explained, no business person could ever predict the future and know all that was in front of them. The details change but the reality is still the same.






    What is that small business' tax rates going to be next year?
    What does the tax laws say it will be next year? that is the reality i would deal with.

    Would you hire an employee with those uncertainties?
    Absolutely if I believed I needed them to make money.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I thought I explained that I am NO LONGER in business and as such do not have the facts on this to provide to you. And as I also thought I explained, no business person could ever predict the future and know all that was in front of them. The details change but the reality is still the same.







    What does the tax laws say it will be next year? that is the reality i would deal with.

    Absolutely if I believed I needed them to make money.

    The realities are indeed what liberals want to ignore, businesses are not going to hire anyone as the uncertainty as to costs are hanging over business heads. Small businesses hire most of the employees in this country and those are the people who don't know what their tax burden or healthcare costs are going to be. Obama policies have added 4 million more to the unemployment roles since the stimulus has been passed and each month of 2010 the unemployment was higher than it was during last year when the recession ended, June 2009.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    I have run a business and can tell you that employees costs are the highest operating expenses of any business. What is Obamacare going to cost a small business for each employee? What is that small business' tax rates going to be next year? would you hire an employee with those uncertainties?
    I've never run a business, but I was gearing up to start one a few years ago. After reviewing the cost analysis data, my wife and I decided to forego the venture. Still, we took the advise from the SBA and incorporated our city, state and federal tax structure into our business finances. To that, if a business no matter how small doesn't do this coming into the next tax year, they're shooting themselves in the foot and likely shouldn't be in business. I mean, who runs a business and does not project what their tax level will be? It's absord!

    As for health care cost, can't help you there. Each business will just have to evaluate the taxes/penalties according to his own employee/financial situation. But considering that none of the business taxes will take effect until 2014, I'd say this is just an excuse Republicans are using to draw attention to themselves. Now, if and when the new health care taxes are in effect and I'm still struggling financially at that time, I likely would not hire new employees on a full-time basis. But once things changed and I could see the potential for increased profitability on the horizon, then yes, I'd hire people. Sure!

    It's a matter of a business having its ducks in a row to start with that matters. Obviously, many businesses that aren't hiring are holding off either because they were directly affected by the financial sector or they've sufferred from the trickle down effect of the economy, i.e., if a delivery company has no drivers, neither my parts or supplies or merchandise will be moved which hurts my bottom line. But it's not fair to say what's happening in the economy as far as business dealings are concerned is a direct result of the health care law or even financial regulatory reform. The latter I could somewhat understand for those on Wall Street or big commercial banks and mortgage lending companies; but for some small circuit board producing company...extremely doubtful their problems can be directed attributed in that way.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The realities are indeed what liberals want to ignore, businesses are not going to hire anyone as the uncertainty as to costs are hanging over business heads. Small businesses hire most of the employees in this country and those are the people who don't know what their tax burden or healthcare costs are going to be. Obama policies have added 4 million more to the unemployment roles since the stimulus has been passed and each month of 2010 the unemployment was higher than it was during last year when the recession ended, June 2009.
    Rationalizations and excuses are what losers give while winners deal with whatever comes down the pike and finds a way to triumph over it.
    Business is no different. The smart business person knows this and is taking advantage of it as we speak.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    Rationalizations and excuses are what losers give while winners deal with whatever comes down the pike and finds a way to triumph over it.
    Business is no different. The smart business person knows this and is taking advantage of it as we speak.
    Explain what the cost is going to be for Obamacare and the tax code for small business in 2011. Keep dodging that issue because small business doesn't know and right now there are 16 million unemployed Americans to compound that problem. Why would anyone add costs to their business with these uncertainties?

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    Explain what the cost is going to be for Obamacare and the tax code for small business in 2011.
    As I am not currently operating a small business why would I have intimate knowledge of this question? You might as well ask me about nuclear physics. Simply because I do not know the answer proves nothing.

    Why would anyone add costs to their business with these uncertainties?
    Because they are smart and believe they can make money. Nothing has changed about that in hundreds of years.
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