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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    What tax cut? Do you always parrot the party line? There are no tax cuts only extension of the current rates!
    Sorry but the current rates have already been raised in the original Bush plan which was adopted by Congress and will soon go into effect.
    Sometimes, language is just what it is despite the desire to nitpick. I plead guilty myself. I absolutely loathe the term "Tea Party" because there is no Tea Party. There is a Republican Party. There is a Democratic Party. There is a Libertarian Party. There is a Socialist Party. But there is not a Tea Party. There is a tea party movement within the Republican Party. But I realize that I fight a losing battle in the larger world on this fine point and it does no good to keep harping on it. Although I must give proper kudos to the good Reverend here since I brought it up he has dropped the caps from the term in his usage. Bravo to him for that.

    The term "deregulation" is another such case in point. Very few industries have actually been deregulated to the point where there is no regulation at all and thus true to the term. But 'deregulation' has come to mean a decrease in regulation and the name has stuck and is with us no matter what a grammarian may think.

    I think you will just have to accept that 'tax cuts' mean cutting back on the scheduled raises that go into effect in 2011. Or you can get in line with me on my Tea Party crusade with one of your own.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you have any evidence which demonstrates that voters were voting GOP because they wanted taxes cut on the top 2% or this just speculation on your part? I would be happy to read it and see some actual evidence supporting your claims.
    True of False...Republicans were campaigning in part on extending the Bush Tax cuts for everyone?

    Love your spin though with the "tax cut on the top 2%".

    Republicans campaigned on certain things - outright hate of Obama being the most obvious.
    Funny, I don't remember a single solitary republican campaigning on "I hate Obama".

    Some gave lip service to the debt and deficit.
    Translation: "I dislike republicans, so I belittle what they actually campaigned on and then make outrageous childish claims like the one I did before this"

    It is the old bait and switch and the GOP are experts at it.
    Actually, its exactly what they campaigned on. Extending the Bush Tax cuts for everyone and rolling back government spending in part by reducing or stopping entitlements.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    The tax rate has always been irrelevant in making business decisions. Demand is always the key.
    What is your experience in running a business thus how would you know? You don't think that the cost of hiring an employee much of which is tax liability affects hiring decisions?

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    True of False...Republicans were campaigning in part on extending the Bush Tax cuts for everyone?

    Love your spin though with the "tax cut on the top 2%".



    Funny, I don't remember a single solitary republican campaigning on "I hate Obama".



    Translation: "I dislike republicans, so I belittle what they actually campaigned on and then make outrageous childish claims like the one I did before this"



    Actually, its exactly what they campaigned on. Extending the Bush Tax cuts for everyone and rolling back government spending in part by reducing or stopping entitlements.

    So you do not have any objective evidence that supports your claims. thank you.

    Zyphlin - I see you posted in the thread about the CNN poll showing there was no mandate for the GOP and most of the people were angry at Obama or the Dems in general. Nothing in that poll supports your analysis.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Generally speaking, I think it can probably be proven that the longer the benefits last, the longer the beneficiaries take to find gainful employment. I would bet a dollar to a donut that if the teat went dry the unemployment percentages would drop.

    I know that I was reading something a while back about how one country, I'm wanting to say Norway, cut unemployment extensions and people went back to work much faster than they did when they had years and years of unemployment benefits. I'll try to find that link.

    One thing for sure, it's just human nature to try and ride the cash cow when/if you can. A poor guy working all week just to bring home 500.00 bucks probably wouldn't mind taking a two year vacation, making only 150.00 bucks a week less than he would make busting his ass. Got no link for that but it's just common sense to me. I don't need a link to tell me it's raining outside.

    I'm all for helping out a man down on his luck. But this is just freakin' rediculous.
    Agreed! It's unemployment "insurance"........ "Insurance"........ "Insurance"..

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    The most important words in that sentence have been noted by me.

    Do you have any evidence which demonstrates that voters were voting GOP because they wanted taxes cut on the top 2% or this just speculation on your part? I would be happy to read it and see some actual evidence supporting your claims.



    Republicans campaigned on certain things - outright hate of Obama being the most obvious. Some gave lip service to the debt and deficit. If they adopt a program of getting rid of hundreds of billions of dollars of revenue which is scheduled to go into the Treasury, and this only increases the deficit, they most certainly are NOT delivering on what they campaigned on. Just the opposite. It is the old bait and switch and the GOP are experts at it.
    Correcct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a Democrat, that shot the Obamacare Bill, with a gun?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Correcct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a Democrat, that shot the Obamacare Bill, with a gun?
    one man as opposed to an entire party, media conglomerates and an outright two year campaign of "lets get the bastard".
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    one man as opposed to an entire party, media conglomerates and an outright two year campaign of "lets get the bastard".
    So, it's not that Obama is the worst president this country has ever had, it's that we're all racists and haters and can't get past our prejudices, to see how wonderful he really is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, it's not that Obama is the worst president this country has ever had, it's that we're all racists and haters and can't get past our prejudices, to see how wonderful he really is?
    Generally we await the end of the game before pronouncing the final score.

    The prejudices of those on the right who have announced their intent with Obama from Day One has been long established and unmistakable.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Generally we await the end of the game before pronouncing the final score.

    The prejudices of those on the right who have announced their intent with Obama from Day One has been long established and unmistakable.
    Any team that is losing at half-time and doesn't change it's game, will lose. I don't see Obama changing his game.

    This clown insists that the American people aren't opposed to his policies and the real problem is that we just don't understand him.

    I mean, we're talking about an administration that wants to strip search nuns, but is considering exempting Muslim women from any searches, at all. It's a ****ing joke!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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