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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe....and then again maybe not. It may just as likely spark a small business revolution when people realize that they have to fend for themselves.

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    already happening,,,,the Pick A Pro ads in our Logan, Utah paper use to run half a page or less, now they run a page and a half.....more competition is driving down the costs to the consumer, and causing the "pros" to earn less.
    Many of these people were building contractors last year, now they are practically door to door beggars...
    How far can that situation go?
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    He fails to mention one of the most salient facts, one that has been brought up in this very thread-- there are not enough jobs. There's a difference of ~10mil. There're about 10mil more people looking for work than there are jobs available for them.

    You can provide all the incentives you want for people to find work, but if there aren't jobs to be had, they cant get the jobs. Take a look at the Amazing Randy's $1mil prize for someone who can prove paranormal psychic abilities--plenty of incentive, yet the $1mil remains unclaimed.

    Personally, I find the premise that a significant fraction let alone a majority, most or all people who are out of work, many of whom have families and recurring bills, are content to settle for a fraction of their income. And FYI, to receive unemployment you have to be looking for a job.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    Sounds like a great opportunity for someone to go to work shoveling snow. If I lived in a state and didn't like shoveling snow I would move to TX where people work and don't have to shovel snow.
    What percentage of them work? If you think Texas is the center of personal responsibility, let me introduce you to some of my siblings...
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    already happening,,,,the Pick A Pro ads in our Logan, Utah paper use to run half a page or less, not they run a page and a half.....more competition is driving down the costs to the consumer, and causing the "pros" to earn less.
    Many of these people were building contractors last year, now they are practically door to door beggars...
    How far can that situation go?

    I would have to say until it finds its particular level. Will that be bad for some? Heck yes, and I really feel for those people.

    But you (not you personally) can't have it both ways....You can't say that things are getting better, only slowly like Obama would have us believe, and then hear stories like yours...Someone is BSing, and I'd bet it isn't you Bill.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sounds like a great opportunity for someone to go to work shoveling snow. If I lived in a state and didn't like shoveling snow I would move to TX where people work and don't have to shovel snow.
    I know you are an intelligent person who both knows what a metaphor is and recognizes it when he sees one.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    What percentage of them work? If you think Texas is the center of personal responsibility, let me introduce you to some of my siblings...
    92% of the people in TX are working leaving 8% unemployed and it is a shame that other state legislatures are too arrogant to find out what works in TX and steal it for their states. In the meantime we still accept businesses from all over the country moving to TX.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I know you are an intelligent person who both knows what a metaphor is and recognizes it when he sees one.
    Yes, I understood the metaphor but you never answered the question as it looks to me like your answer is indefinitely as long as Obama continues to make it snow.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh so am I correct in assuming that you just said indefinitely?

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    As long as there is a need to shovel the snow, you keep shoveling. Or are you going to take the position that because the calendar says its the first day of Spring then you can ignore the 12 inches of snow that is paralyzing your town or city?
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, I understood the metaphor but you never answered the question as it looks to me like your answer is indefinitely as long as Obama continues to make it snow.
    Ignoring the silly comment about the god like powers of a human being, YES, you keep shoveling as long as the need is there.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As long as there is a need to shovel the snow, you keep shoveling. Or are you going to take the position that because the calendar says its the first day of Spring then you can ignore the 12 inches of snow that is paralyzing your town or city?
    Looks to me like it is Obama making it snow as he is hurting small businesses by forcing bigger govt. and the costs of that govt. on those businesses. No small business is going to hire people today because of the uncertainty as to what their costs are going to be to hire new employees.

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