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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You know, it's funny; Congress is still controlled by Democrats who don't need Republican help to pass this thing. It failed, so . . .
    Try actually reading the article before posting... saves on foot-in-mouth disease.

    Democrats brought the measure to the floor under fast-track rules that required a two-thirds vote to pass, so the measure fell despite winning a 258-154 majority. Republicans blasted the move since it denied them an opportunity to try to offset its cost.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The wealth gap has been steadily widening for some time now. It's hard to garner sympathy for the top 2% when others are struggling to make ends meet.
    What is causing the wealth gap to widen and why aren't you and others participating? It apparently isn't hard to whine and complain about what someone else makes. How does penalizing them help you or anyone else?

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The poor don't need more tax breaks, they need better education, more jobs, and a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD in the investment world....and then they can pay more in taxes...
    vicious circle.

    IF the poor would take advantage of educational opportunities that exist then they could get better jobs and then they too could bitch about having to pay too much in taxes.

    I don't see how further taxing the rich is going to help the poor break out of the cycle of dependency or encourage them to get better educated/trained.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Vehicle registration, hunting/fishing licenses, driver's licenses, etc.

    I have family in Texas.

    Why would businesses care what individual income taxes are? Perhaps it's something else.
    Businesses care about the ability to make a profit and lower taxes allow them to do that. Profits aren't bad regardless of what big govt. liberals think. So now driving, fishing, and other use taxes are income taxes? Interesting interpretation. No wonder your state is screwed up. Thanks for sending two divisions of Caterpillar to TX. We appreciate the added revenue that thousands of employees generate.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is causing the wealth gap to widen and why aren't you and others participating? It apparently isn't hard to whine and complain about what someone else makes. How does penalizing them help you or anyone else?
    It takes money to make money. People struggling to make ends meet don't have the extra scratch to invest. It's not penalizing, it's noblesse oblige.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    vicious circle.

    IF the poor would take advantage of educational opportunities that exist then they could get better jobs and then they too could bitch about having to pay too much in taxes.

    I don't see how further taxing the rich is going to help the poor break out of the cycle of dependency or encourage them to get better educated/trained.
    I don't see how tax the poor/middle class out of their homes is going to help either.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I don't see how tax the poor/middle class out of their homes is going to help either.
    that's why you don't raise taxes on anybody...you cut BS spending.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    vicious circle.

    IF the poor would take advantage of educational opportunities that exist then they could get better jobs and then they too could bitch about having to pay too much in taxes.

    I don't see how further taxing the rich is going to help the poor break out of the cycle of dependency or encourage them to get better educated/trained.
    The main part is "better education". Follow with fewer jobless benefits, and more jobs. Some think that only the rich generate jobs, but that is BS. There aren't that many rich, and of the ones that are rich, not that many own companies. Most companies are publicly traded, thousands of owners.
    IMO, the last year of High School needs to be enhanced with REALITY, and I don't mean the kind displayed on current TV shows.
    We need to make it harder to live on welfare, but at the same time easier to get an education that actually leads to jobs.
    Where will the jobs come from? A very large middle class.....
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't understand people like you. Why does the govt. need the money more than you and why are liberals fighting so hard to raise taxes on individuals. Some people just are brainwashed and don't want the facts. You seem to be one of them. Good luck with that.
    Did I say I wanted taxes to be raised? Point to anything in my post where I said I was for raising taxes. I did not. I merely made counter-points to your argument concerning the limited tax credits, extensions or reductions made under Pres. Obama. Can't help it if my objectivity ruined your "I hate Obama" tiraide.

    I tend to look at a given situation and support concepts that are intended to either remedy the situation or mitigate it to some degree, i.e., tax cuts/credits that are specific for the economic situation of the day. The reason I'm against making any tax cuts permanent is because we live in a capitalistic society where the state of our economy is always changing, constantly in flux. A 10% tax increase today (depending on what the increase was for) might not be as affective 5-10 years from now. So, why make them permanent if chances are the nation's economic situation may very well change in the not too distant future and we find we have to either increase or decrease that same tax because the economics of the day have changed? It's why our tax code is 20 years out of date! Our economy has changed. Now, imagine if made the tax code from 1990 permanent and could not change them to meet today's economic challenges? This is why I think what Republicans are advocating is disasterous to the future of our nation's economy. It's foolhearty to think any other way!!!

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    that's why you don't raise taxes on anybody...you cut BS spending.
    And that is where the rubber meets the road. What are you going to cut to make up the massive difference?
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