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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    Neither does "this" President and that is the problem. The only ideology that makes any sense is a pro growth, free enterprise, capitalistic economic policy that promotes incentive and individual wealth creation. To do that tax rates have to be cut and govt. programs cut back. Obama has grown the size of govt.and added govt. programs thus the results we have now. Had he promoted the private sector wouldn't be this bad 17 months after the end of a recession. His goal is to make things worse so that he can complete his efforts to transform American into that Socialist utopia that he believes in. Problem is this is liberal arrogance as there is no socialist utopia.
    Yes, just like when we were a socialist country in the Clinton years.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    Yes, just like when we were a socialist country in the Clinton years.
    In case you missed it, Clinton had a GOP Congress and signed GOP legislation. Our economy is private sector, not public sector, something Obama doesn't understand. Obama is no Clinton, he is too arrogant.

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    In case you missed it, Clinton had a GOP Congress and signed GOP legislation. Our economy is private sector, not public sector, something Obama doesn't understand. Obama is no Clinton, he is too arrogant.
    So you are saying that the GOP Congress was socialist? That is what the tax rates are returning to, those GOP legislated rates.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    So you are saying that the GOP Congress was socialist? That is what the tax rates are returning to, those GOP legislated rates.
    oops big mistake

    those rates were enacted between 93 and 95 when the dems ran congress. with clinton's veto the GOP couldn't overturn them



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    So you are saying that the GOP Congress was socialist? That is what the tax rates are returning to, those GOP legislated rates.
    You need to go back to your new home where you can go off topic and do whatever you want. Your posts don't make any sense. There was nothing socialist with the GOP Congress and Contract with America. Sounds like you might have been a little young to understand what happened during the Clinton years. Obama is too arrogant to learn.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You need to go back to your new home where you can go off topic and do whatever you want. Your posts don't make any sense. There was nothing socialist with the GOP Congress and Contract with America. Sounds like you might have been a little young to understand what happened during the Clinton years. Obama is too arrogant to learn.
    You are the one saying that Clinton signed GOP legislation. Turtledude disagrees with you though. I was just using your logic. By Turtle's logic it wasn't the Dems fault because Bush could veto their Bills. You two figure it out and let me know what you two agree on.

    I do agree with you though, The Contract on America and Newt Gingrich weren't socialist. Neither is Obama for letting the tax rates go back to what they were under Clinton. Neither were Eisenhower or Nixon. Look up the tax rates during their administrations.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You are the one saying that Clinton signed GOP legislation. Turtledude disagrees with you though. I was just using your logic. By Turtle's logic it wasn't the Dems fault because Bush could veto their Bills. You two figure it out and let me know what you two agree on.

    I do agree with you though, The Contract on America and Newt Gingrich weren't socialist. Neither is Obama for letting the tax rates go back to what they were under Clinton. Neither were Eisenhower or Nixon. Look up the tax rates during their administrations.
    what was the effective tax rate on the top 2% in those eras versus what it will be with the clinton-Obama tax hike (if imposed)?

    I think you might be surprised

    did you figure out your gaping error about the clinton tax hikes



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You are the one saying that Clinton signed GOP legislation. Turtledude disagrees with you though. I was just using your logic. By Turtle's logic it wasn't the Dems fault because Bush could veto their Bills. You two figure it out and let me know what you two agree on.

    I do agree with you though, The Contract on America and Newt Gingrich weren't socialist. Neither is Obama for letting the tax rates go back to what they were under Clinton. Neither were Eisenhower or Nixon. Look up the tax rates during their administrations.
    Obama's policies are more than just letting the tax rates expire, he has implemented the largest expansion of Govt. probably in history. His goal was to transform America and the American people weren't on the same page as to what that transformation meant. Obama and the majority in this country are on a different page thus the elections on Nov. 2. Obamacare, bailout of unions, targeted tax cuts, wealth redistribution, tax transfers from taxpayers to non taxpayers, etc, is all about transforming this country into a more socialistic economy based upon social justice.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You know, it's funny; Congress is still controlled by Democrats who don't need Republican help to pass this thing. It failed, so . . .
    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    From the article:

    Democrats brought the measure to the floor under fast-track rules that required a two-thirds vote to pass, so the measure fell despite winning a 258-154 majority.
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    Use of the fast track procedure in the lame duck session was nothing more than a political stunt designed to make leftists look good. The Democrats knew the proposed legislation was doomed, but brought it up anyway in a lame duck session where time is of the essence. This is nothing more than guerrilla theatre.
    The House of Reps has 435 members of which the Dems currently hold 255 seats. Two-thirds vote would mean a minimum of 290 votes. As such, without 35 votes from the Reps, it's impossible for the Dems to pass any House bill on their own using the fast-track rule. So, which one is it? "Guerrilla theatre by the Dems or stonewalling by the GOP yet again?
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The House of Reps has 435 members of which the Dems hold 255 seats. Two-thirds vote would mean a minimum of 290 votes. As such, it's impossible for them to pass any House bill on their own using the fast-track rule. So, which one is it? "Guerrilla theatre or the GOP stonewalling yet again?
    why did the dems fast track it?



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