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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have represented gun stores at certain times in my 25+ year career but have never owned or run or had a partnership interest in a gun store though some would say my collection is sufficient to start one

    Oh wait my bad you said you and your wife had a sporting goods store, correct?

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    Oh wait my bad you said you and your wife had a sporting goods store, correct?
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then pay for them damn it! It's not your freaking money. Cut the freaking budget, or does that much common sense evade you?
    And where do you want to cut?

    The military?

    Medicare?

    Social Security?

    VA benefits?
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    And where do you want to cut?

    The military?

    Medicare?

    Social Security?

    VA benefits?
    See if there is anything in here that you can cut

    Budget line items and 2009/2008 years

    2009 2008

    Defense 662.8 616.1
    International Affairs 38.6 28.9
    Gen. Science, Space 29.9 27.8
    Energy 4.6 ..5
    Natural resources/env 45.7 31.9
    Agriculture 14.0 18.4
    Commerce 292.5 27.7
    Transportation 84.4 77.6
    Community Dev 26.2 23.9
    Education/Train/Social 78.2 90.9
    Health 334.3 280.7
    Medicare 430.1 390.8
    Income Security 533.9 427.4
    Social Security 683.0 617.0
    Veterans Benefits 95.5 84.6
    Justice 53.4 47.1
    General Govt. 17.6 20.3
    Net Interest 190.9 252.8


    Total 3615.6 3063.9

    First off take SS and Medicare off budget and put it where it belongs the compare Federal and State responsibilities and find out where there are duplications. Eliminate the Dept of Education and Energy. Cut back International Affairs, Commerce, Agriculture, Transportation, Health, Community Development, and income Security. Fund defense, VA, and the reduced size of all the depts listed which should take the size of govt. down to around 1.7 trillion dollars. Reducing the size of govt. affects lobbyists and outside influenced by deminishing the power of our elected officials.

    Defense 662.8
    International Affairs 20
    Gen. Science, Space 15
    Energy 0
    Natural resources/env 15
    Agriculture
    Commerce 30
    Transportation 40
    Community Dev
    Education/Train/Social
    Health 200
    Medicare
    Income Security 300
    Social Security
    Veterans Benefits 95.5
    Justice 53.4
    General Govt. 17.6
    Net Interest 190.9


    Total 1640.2
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    See if there is anything in here that you can cut

    Budget line items and 2009/2008 years

    2009 2008

    Defense 662.8 616.1
    International Affairs 38.6 28.9
    Gen. Science, Space 29.9 27.8
    Energy 4.6 ..5
    Natural resources/env 45.7 31.9
    Agriculture 14.0 18.4
    Commerce 292.5 27.7
    Transportation 84.4 77.6
    Community Dev 26.2 23.9
    Education/Train/Social 78.2 90.9
    Health 334.3 280.7
    Medicare 430.1 390.8
    Income Security 533.9 427.4
    Social Security 683.0 617.0
    Veterans Benefits 95.5 84.6
    Justice 53.4 47.1
    General Govt. 17.6 20.3
    Net Interest 190.9 252.8


    Total 3615.6 3063.9

    First off take SS and Medicare off budget and put it where it belongs the compare Federal and State responsibilities and find out where there are duplications. Eliminate the Dept of Education and Energy. Cut back International Affairs, Commerce, Agriculture, Transportation, Health, Community Development, and income Security. Fund defense, VA, and the reduced size of all the depts listed which should take the size of govt. down to around 1.7 trillion dollars. Reducing the size of govt. affects lobbyists and outside influenced by deminishing the power of our elected officials.

    Defense 662.8
    International Affairs 20
    Gen. Science, Space 15
    Energy 0
    Natural resources/env 15
    Agriculture
    Commerce 30
    Transportation 40
    Community Dev
    Education/Train/Social
    Health 200
    Medicare
    Income Security 300
    Social Security
    Veterans Benefits 95.5
    Justice 53.4
    General Govt. 17.6
    Net Interest 190.9


    Total 1640.2
    Putting SS and medicare onto the states would also require the states collecting the taxes for those programs. As at least SS is funded fully through its own tax, that will not help the current deficit of the federal government
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Putting SS and medicare onto the states would also require the states collecting the taxes for those programs. As at least SS is funded fully through its own tax, that will not help the current deficit of the federal government
    I didn't say Medicare and SS should be state responsiblities, I said they should be where they belong, off budget and in a lock box. They are paid for separately thus shouldn't be on budget. Originally SS was put on budget by LBJ to pay for his Great Society and the Vietnam War.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    See if there is anything in here that you can cut

    Budget line items and 2009/2008 years

    2009 2008

    Defense 662.8 616.1
    International Affairs 38.6 28.9
    Gen. Science, Space 29.9 27.8
    Energy 4.6 ..5
    Natural resources/env 45.7 31.9
    Agriculture 14.0 18.4
    Commerce 292.5 27.7
    Transportation 84.4 77.6
    Community Dev 26.2 23.9
    Education/Train/Social 78.2 90.9
    Health 334.3 280.7
    Medicare 430.1 390.8
    Income Security 533.9 427.4
    Social Security 683.0 617.0
    Veterans Benefits 95.5 84.6
    Justice 53.4 47.1
    General Govt. 17.6 20.3
    Net Interest 190.9 252.8


    Total 3615.6 3063.9

    First off take SS and Medicare off budget and put it where it belongs the compare Federal and State responsibilities and find out where there are duplications. Eliminate the Dept of Education and Energy. Cut back International Affairs, Commerce, Agriculture, Transportation, Health, Community Development, and income Security. Fund defense, VA, and the reduced size of all the depts listed which should take the size of govt. down to around 1.7 trillion dollars. Reducing the size of govt. affects lobbyists and outside influenced by deminishing the power of our elected officials.

    Defense 662.8
    International Affairs 20
    Gen. Science, Space 15
    Energy 0
    Natural resources/env 15
    Agriculture
    Commerce 30
    Transportation 40
    Community Dev
    Education/Train/Social
    Health 200
    Medicare
    Income Security 300
    Social Security
    Veterans Benefits 95.5
    Justice 53.4
    General Govt. 17.6
    Net Interest 190.9


    Total 1640.2
    Good luck with eliminating all those jobs. That should correct the unemployment numbers.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Good luck with eliminating all those jobs. That should correct the unemployment numbers.
    Those Federal jobs are non productive anyway and actually produce very little. If any are worth their weight then the private sector awaits. Not surprising you believe it is the Federal Govt's role to create jobs. That is what got us in this mess in the first place, an overreaching Federal Govt. promoted by people who want a big Central Govt. and people dependent on that govt.

    By the way, here is what is going to happen if something drastic isn't done

    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...inable-track-1

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Those Federal jobs are non productive anyway and actually produce very little. If any are worth their weight then the private sector awaits. Not surprising you believe it is the Federal Govt's role to create jobs. That is what got us in this mess in the first place, an overreaching Federal Govt. promoted by people who want a big Central Govt. and people dependent on that govt.

    By the way, here is what is going to happen if something drastic isn't done

    Obama
    Like the private sector has a major demand for new employees. That's the problem. You just want to spin everything to bash other ideologies but you only offer up more disasters. That's what I got from the election. It was a tsunami. A disaster.

    Unemployed people don't stimulate the economy.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Like the private sector has a major demand for new employees. That's the problem. You just want to spin everything to bash other ideologies but you only offer up more disasters. That's what I got from the election. It was a tsunami. A disaster.

    Unemployed people don't stimulate the economy.
    Neither does "this" President and that is the problem. The only ideology that makes any sense is a pro growth, free enterprise, capitalistic economic policy that promotes incentive and individual wealth creation. To do that tax rates have to be cut and govt. programs cut back. Obama has grown the size of govt.and added govt. programs thus the results we have now. Had he promoted the private sector wouldn't be this bad 17 months after the end of a recession. His goal is to make things worse so that he can complete his efforts to transform American into that Socialist utopia that he believes in. Problem is this is liberal arrogance as there is no socialist utopia.

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