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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Want to make these easy jobs for idiots to lazy to actually find a good job? Quit giving China and India business. It's that easy. **** them both.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    As I stated earlier--as long as it benefits the country.
    That is a rather vacuous answer but I guess its probably a fair one under the circumstances. some would say no benefits is most beneficial while those who want as many people addicted to government dependency would say forever.



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Want to make these easy jobs for idiots to lazy to actually find a good job? Quit giving China and India business. It's that easy. **** them both.
    that is rather simple minded in terms of a solution. If someone can say get a casting for an industrial valve made in Korea for 250 dollars using a certain grade of brass and a certain grade of labor and getting the exact same quality in the USA is going to cost 475 what will happen to the company that tries to sell American made valves when they compete against those selling equally good Korean made valves?



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean FICA taxes that fund SS and Medicare? Hmmm, then my bet is you will be complaining when SS and Medicare is broke and not able to fund individuals in their retirement years.
    Why do you keep trying to make this about me? Why can't this be about the issues?
    If it boosts the economy, it provides more income over the long term. So, that means that it increases the net contributions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As for the CBO report, read the entire report and stop cherry picking the data.
    So that means you can't find the part where you said it says, "that taking money out of the economy and putting it back into unemployment benefits might increase economic output, or it might decrease it"
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    Further I am still waiting for what is temporary in your world?
    Why is this about me? Did I write that report? WTF, dude?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where is the incentive to take a job when that temporary number today is over two years?
    While we're being so personal, let me ask you, would you have any incentive to find a job if you did not have one? Well, isn't it conceivable that not every other American besides yourself is a lazy ass who would rather sponge for a fraction of what hey could make if they had a job?
    Americans weren't turned into a horde of lazy folks over night. Please stop defaming our fellow countrymen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Doubt seriously that you read the Paul Ryan Roadmap or anything from the minority party as Reid and Pelosi controlled the agenda.
    So, am I wrong? Is there a proposal for a payroll tax holiday that I don't know about? If there is, why not just list it and show that I am wrong?
    Why try to make it about what you think about me?

    I promise that I am not worthy of discussion.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That is a rather vacuous answer but I guess its probably a fair one under the circumstances. some would say no benefits is most beneficial while those who want as many people addicted to government dependency would say forever.
    That's quite a wide and weird dichotomy.

    What would people who recognize that we're in an unusual circumstance say?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Why do you keep trying to make this about me? Why can't this be about the issues?
    If it boosts the economy, it provides more income over the long term. So, that means that it increases the net contributions.
    So that means you can't find the part where you said it says, "that taking money out of the economy and putting it back into unemployment benefits might increase economic output, or it might decrease it"
    Why is this about me? Did I write that report? WTF, dude?

    While we're being so personal, let me ask you, would you have any incentive to find a job if you did not have one? Well, isn't it conceivable that not every other American besides yourself is a lazy ass who would rather sponge for a fraction of what hey could make if they had a job?
    Americans weren't turned into a horde of lazy folks over night. Please stop defaming our fellow countrymen.

    So, am I wrong? Is there a proposal for a payroll tax holiday that I don't know about? If there is, why not just list it and show that I am wrong?
    Why try to make it about what you think about me?

    I promise that I am not worthy of discussion.
    Have at it,

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    Tax reform not a tax holiday. A tax holiday is short term relief whereas tax reform is long term and focuses on economic growth. You cannot handle a debt this size by tax increases or a simple tax holiday. Democrats have to stop using the static approach to tax revenue as they continue to ignore how economic growth affects taxes and job creation.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    That's quite a wide and weird dichotomy.

    What would people who recognize that we're in an unusual circumstance say?
    I'd say right now they no longer benefit America since t hey are purely redistributive. I oppose almost all income redistribution save for cases where a person is truly unable to work.



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I'd say right now they no longer benefit America since t hey are purely redistributive. I oppose almost all income redistribution save for cases where a person is truly unable to work.
    So you disagree with the assessment that increased demand will help our economy?
    To me it's about practical measures to improve things, not about ideological purity.

    I am open to counter evidence.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I oppose almost all income redistribution save for cases where a person is truly unable to work.
    According to the BLS, about 10mil people fall into that category simply because there just aren't jobs for that exist them.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    The utter disingenuousness of such a 'question' is simply astounding. Do they teach this at the von Mises Institute or does such appeal to over the top absurdity come naturally?
    Fine. You have a careless indifference as to what your proposals will do to the poor. Which is the point you're dodging by singling this out.
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