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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    again, you have no understanding of economics, and all you have left are insults and personal attacks....come and see me after you take some economic courses at your local college, as obviously, you are not here to learn anything.
    You are absolutely correct, I don't understand our economy at all since apparently 4 million lost jobs, 3 trillion added to the debt, bailout of unions is a good thing, I should simply marvel at how brilliant Obama seems to believe he is just like you do. You have yet to address the economic numbers posted yet claim I know nothing about economics. You ought to take your own advice as maybe you would make statements that ignore the 4 million unemployed since Obama took office and the 3 trillion he added to the debt instead of blaming it on someone else. I have seen no evidence that you know what you are talking about on any issue and even others aren't supporting your posts.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    So, you don't think that anyone can predict what will happen if unemployment benefits are extended?

    also

    How does non-spending on the part of however many thousands of people provide more benefit to the economy than spending by thousands of people--even if only on what is needed?
    Predictions are worthless, results matter. I predict that people will stay unemployed as long as there is no incentive to find a job.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are absolutely correct, I don't understand our economy at all since apparently 4 million lost jobs, 3 trillion added to the debt, bailout of unions is a good thing, I should simply marvel at how brilliant Obama seems to believe he is just like you do. You have yet to address the economic numbers posted yet claim I know nothing about economics. You ought to take your own advice as maybe you would make statements that ignore the 4 million unemployed since Obama took office and the 3 trillion he added to the debt instead of blaming it on someone else. I have seen no evidence that you know what you are talking about on any issue and even others aren't supporting your posts.
    yes you are absolutely correct, you don't understand our economy...that is all you needed to say, glad you were able to admit as much.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Far more unemployed workers than job openings
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    October 7, 2010
    This morning the Bureau of Labor Statistics released the August report from the Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey (JOLTS), showing that job openings increased by 60,000 in August (and upward revisions to earlier data reveal that there were 99,000 more jobs openings in July than previously reported).

    The total number of job openings in August was 3.2 million. From the August Current Population Survey, we know that the total number of unemployed workers was 14.9 million. This means that the ratio of unemployed workers to job openings was 4.6-to-1 in August, unchanged from the revised July ratio. It is important to note that this ratio does not measure the number of applicants for each job. There may be throngs of applicants for every job posting, since job seekers apply for multiple jobs. The 4.6-to-1 ratio means that for every 46 unemployed workers, there are only 10 available job openings.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    What?! McDonalds not hiring? The problem with some of these people is that any work just isn't good enough for them. That some hard honest work is below them.
    Yes, more or less. There are more job seekers than jobs.

    Hard to believe ain't it? Hasn't been that way in my recent memory. This isn't about people being lazy. The American populace hasn't suddenly been stricken with laziness en masse. There's a real economic event going on here.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Predictions are worthless, results matter. I predict that people will stay unemployed as long as there is no incentive to find a job.
    So you have no way of knowing that extending unemployment benefits will be detrimental.

    also

    How does non-spending on the part of however many thousands of people provide more benefit to the economy than spending by thousands of people--even if only on what is needed?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    yes you are absolutely correct, you don't understand our economy...that is all you needed to say, glad you were able to admit as much.
    I keep waiting for someone of your superior intelligence and experience to educate me but like with all liberals I am always disappointed. Tell me exactly where my economics education is lacking and what I am missing regarding the Obama economy?

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    So you have no way of knowing that extending unemployment benefits will be detrimental.

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    How does non-spending on the part of however many thousands of people provide more benefit to the economy than spending by thousands of people--even if only on what is needed?
    Detrimental to whom? It costs tax revenue to fund unemployment benefits and that adds to the deficit which adds to debt service so tell me how that benefits the U.S. economy vs. forcing that unemployed individual to find a job, maybe not THE job but A job? If you truly care about tax revenue why would you support paying it out to people who can but don't work?

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    My thoughts on this is, I don't give a ****. I saw something that showed that a great majority of Americans have been jobless for over 32 weeks. What?! McDonalds not hiring? The problem with some of these people is that any work just isn't good enough for them. That some hard honest work is below them. Also democrats were gong to do the same thing people, just can't find it. ALSO this doesn't mean it cuts them off like some people are thinking, this is just the extra contribution the American government puts into it goes away. Why and how in the hell did this subject become 24 pages?

    Try 99 wks and wanting another extention. As long as the unemployment checks are coming, many will not take a job they feel is beneath them.
    I think those who have been unemployed for close to 2 yrs should have packed up and moved a long time ago. Their job is not coming back and apparantly there is no other work to be found.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Yes, more or less. There are more job seekers than jobs.

    Hard to believe ain't it? Hasn't been that way in my recent memory. This isn't about people being lazy. The American populace hasn't suddenly been stricken with laziness en masse. There's a real economic event going on here.
    Sorry I still call BS. Persistance and will is all you need. I went 2 months without a job I thought that was a lot. I live in a area that currently, the unemployment is 19%--that was before I had the job I have now and damn wouldn'tcha now I found a job! I refuse to believe that it isn't because people are idiots and can't be more resourceful.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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