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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I did explain. Corporate income taxes accounted for the bulk of the increase.

    Now attack everything that doesn't support your view. You posted numbers and attributed your own spin on those numbers. I showed you something that disagreed with it. You attack the CBO's predictions but this was a historical analysis. Tell me more about what liberals don't understand.
    Both corporate and personal income taxes went up AFTER the Bush tax cuts. Think that corporations pay higher taxes with lower profits? what do you do when you get to keep more of your income in higher take home pay?

    I attack CBO predictions because history shows how accurate CBO. Why would CBO projections be more accurate than actual numbers? The historical data is there for all to see, you choose to buy projections over actual data thus cannot explain your position.

    The only numbers that matter come from here.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    I only focus on taxes because that is what liberals want to focus on.
    Wait, you are a liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have given you what I believe the role of the govt. is and the line items that the Federal Govt. is responsible. Liberals are the ones that call tax revenue an expense to the govt.
    No, a loss of potential revenue is being called an expense.


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    Banks are dependent on individuals making and depositing money into their banks.
    That's an interesting analysis of TARP.


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Simple answer, stop the spending on items that are better handled at the state and local levels. Get the Federal Govt. back to the Constitutional requirements.
    The states are broke. Are you suggesting that we let Alaska implode? They take in more federal money than they pay in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When have liberals proposed spending cuts? PayGo is a lost issue with liberals, how do you pay for the extension of unemployment benefits?
    PAYGO says that you can't have a policy in the red for more than 10 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't know what the GOP is going to do but the fact is we cannot continue like the Democrats have done for the past four years. The only way to get out of a debt this size is to grow your way out of it and do so by slowing the growth in the size of govt. and actually cutting some areas.
    The GOP is going to raise THE debt ceiling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is THE problem. Stop forcing people to spend THEIR money on issues you deem important that they don't.
    Oh, like the money pit in Iraq?
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I only focus on taxes because that is what liberals want to focus on.
    Wait, you are a liberal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have given you what I believe the role of the govt. is and the line items that the Federal Govt. is responsible. Liberals are the ones that call tax revenue an expense to the govt.
    No, a loss of potential revenue is being called an expense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Banks are dependent on individuals making and depositing money into their banks.
    That's an interesting analysis of TARP.


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Simple answer, stop the spending on items that are better handled at the state and local levels. Get the Federal Govt. back to the Constitutional requirements.
    The states are broke. Are you suggesting that we let Alaska implode? They take in more federal money than they pay in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When have liberals proposed spending cuts? PayGo is a lost issue with liberals, how do you pay for the extension of unemployment benefits?
    PAYGO says that you can't have a policy in the red for more than 10 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't know what the GOP is going to do but the fact is we cannot continue like the Democrats have done for the past four years. The only way to get out of a debt this size is to grow your way out of it and do so by slowing the growth in the size of govt. and actually cutting some areas.
    The GOP is going to raise THE debt ceiling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is THE problem. Stop forcing people to spend THEIR money on issues you deem important that they don't.
    Oh, like the money pit in Iraq?
    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what kind of jobs? what do these jobs pay? what kind of benefits? is their perhaps a reason for their 'low' prices?
    Why don't you apply for a Wal-Mart job and find out. There jobs all over the spectrum with Wal-Mart and Wal-Mart always promotes from within. Lower prices means greater demand so instead of selling one item for $1 they sell 2 items for .50 and the customer is in the store buying other items. You really don't understand how retail works, do you?

    Do you buy sale items only when you go to the store? Think businesses make money on sale items? I spent 35 years in retail, what is your experience?

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why don't you apply for a Wal-Mart job and find out. There jobs all over the spectrum with Wal-Mart and Wal-Mart always promotes from within. Lower prices means greater demand so instead of selling one item for $1 they sell 2 items for .50 and the customer is in the store buying other items. You really don't understand how retail works, do you?

    Do you buy sale items only when you go to the store? Think businesses make money on sale items? I spent 35 years in retail, what is your experience?
    my experience isnt the issue here, i asked you to explain to me what kind of jobs walmart offers, what kind of benefits.....either admit you don't know the answers, or quit insinuating that you do.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002;


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    No, a loss of potential revenue is being called an expense.
    Uh, no it isn't. If you project less revenue, spend less. The fact is govt. revenue grew so there wasn't less revenue, there was more. Projections from this Administration have never been accurate.



    That's an interesting analysis of TARP.
    What does TARP have to do with the banking business model?


    The states are broke. Are you suggesting that we let Alaska implode? They take in more federal money than they pay in.
    States that are broke spend too much, it has nothing to do with revenue. Give a liberal politician a dollar and they will spend two.

    PAYGO says that you can't have a policy in the red for more than 10 years.
    Don't see an answer, where does the money come from to pay for extended unemployment benefits?



    The GOP is going to raise THE debt ceiling.
    Maybe but not without strings. You don't know what the GOP is going to do, hope they allow the govt. to shutdown.

    Oh, like the money pit in Iraq?

    Right, in the liberal world 100 billion dollars a year will eliminate the trillion dollar a year Obama deficits.

    Spending isn't a problem, it is THE problem

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    please explain the benefits walmart provides to its workers and the community...
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    my experience isnt the issue here, i asked you to explain to me what kind of jobs walmart offers, what kind of benefits.....either admit you don't know the answers, or quit insinuating that you do.
    I don't have to explain anything to you because you don't want to learn. I competed against Wal-Mart and know exactly what they pay and their benefit package. You really need to get out more. Do some research instead of buying what you are told by other liberals.

    http://walmartstores.com/careers/
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Harshaw - people without jobs cannot buy products be they cheaply priced, moderately priced or expensively priced. I do not want to punish the poor but rather eradicate most of the poor by elevating them into the middle class of workers. Eliminating good paying manufacturing jobs in America in exchange for saying "welcome to Wal Mart" and inexpensive toothpaste is not my idea of The American Dream.
    Obviously, you do not get it.

    A trade war will not bring any jobs back. It will only make things more expensive and hurt everyone, most of all the poor, whom you claim to be a champion of.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't have to explain anything to you because you don't want to learn. I competed against Wal-Mart and know exactly what they pay and their benefit package. You really need to get out more. Do some research instead of buying what you are told by other liberals.
    you won't explain, because YOU DON'T KNOW......don't give me this crap that you 'competed' against them...either put up or shut up, if you 'know', it shouldnt be that hard for you to provide the info. ball is in your court.

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