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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by zip98053 View Post
    To which extension are you referring; the extension of the tax breaks for the wealthy or the extension of unemployment benefits? Letting the taxes on the wealthy revert to Clinton-era rates (which were much lower than the Reagan-era rates) would more than make up for the cost of the extension of unemployment benefits.
    why should those who already pay too much taxes have to pay more to fund give aways to people who haven't paid taxes?



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    why should those who already pay too much taxes have to pay more to fund give aways to people who haven't paid taxes?
    You begin the sentence with a false premise. You end the sentence with a false statement.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You begin the sentence with a false premise. You end the sentence with a false statement.

    Care to explain that one?


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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Care to explain that one?


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    why should those who already pay too much taxes
    that is the false premise


    have to pay more to fund give aways to people who haven't paid taxes?
    that is the false statement.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    sure

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    that is the false premise

    that is the false statement.

    *Sigh* ok, let me take it to the extreme because you may not have understood what I was asking you for....

    that is the false premise
    How so? Please tell me how the thought of someone that they pay too much in taxes is a false premise.

    and

    that is the false statement.
    How is this a false statement?

    Now please,.....


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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Tax rates on higher earners today are among the lowest in the last half century. There is nothing to show that people in that group are paying too much.

    Almost everybody pays taxes and there are many different ones that the original poster conveniently and purposely ignores instead obsessing on income taxes. To claim that people do not pay taxes is a intentionally false statement that has been pointed out to that poster time and time and time again but it seems to have failed to deter the individual from continuing to spread the falsehood.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Tax rates on higher earners today are among the lowest in the last half century. There is nothing to show that people in that group are paying too much.
    Ok, so then by that logic, you know 'everyone paying their fair share' couldn't it be said that those that pay a net nothing in tax step up and have to pay into the system that they gain from? Also, who's money do you think that is? The earners? or the governments?

    Almost everybody pays taxes and there are many different ones that the original poster conveniently and purposely ignores instead obsessing on income taxes. To claim that people do not pay taxes is a intentionally false statement that has been pointed out to that poster time and time and time again but it seems to have failed to deter the individual from continuing to spread the falsehood.
    Nonsense. If consumption taxation was a real consideration, we would have that as the system in this country to fund our governmental projects. We don't because there is a movement today that considers success a bad thing, and wants to punish it.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You begin the sentence with a false premise. You end the sentence with a false statement.
    you just make stuff up and run with it. when a group makes 22% of the income and pays 40% of the income tax they are paying too much in taxes.

    when a group pays 40% of the income tax and almost all the death confiscation tax yet use NOWHERE NEAR that much of the services their tax dollars pay for, they are overtaxed.



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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    *Sigh* ok, let me take it to the extreme because you may not have understood what I was asking you for....



    How so? Please tell me how the thought of someone that they pay too much in taxes is a false premise.

    and



    How is this a false statement?

    Now please,.....


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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Tax rates on higher earners today are among the lowest in the last half century. There is nothing to show that people in that group are paying too much.

    Almost everybody pays taxes and there are many different ones that the original poster conveniently and purposely ignores instead obsessing on income taxes. To claim that people do not pay taxes is a intentionally false statement that has been pointed out to that poster time and time and time again but it seems to have failed to deter the individual from continuing to spread the falsehood.
    more nonsense. you confuse marginal tax rates with effective tax rates and for most of this country's history there was NO income tax. saying people are Screwed less by a greedy government means that its fair is as moronic as saying that there is no unfair treatment of anyone because there is less institutional bias than there was 60 years ago.



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