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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Dems didn't need any help from the Rep. The Dems are still in power. Blaming the Rep. is just just dirty pool playing. They did the same thing with something else a while back to make the Rep. look bad in the media. They could have gone regular order and only needed Dem. votes. Instead they took a different route and needed some Rep. Then again it still could have passed in a bi-partisan way if the Dems had agreed to pay for it with unspent stimulus funds. They said no.
    You are right, 26 wks is supposed to be the limit. They just keep giving "emergency" extentions. The state have to pay this money back WITH INTEREST to the federal govt. I think it's an emergency that we stop now before more than Ca is in the crapper.
    I think far too many have very short memories on some issue, like the November 2 election, when the Republicans took over 60 seats in the House and 682 state legislative positions, a truly historic election and results. The people were screaming, "Stop the Spending!" so now we have a test of that vote so let's see what happens. 2 years doesn't seem to be enough time to find a job for some people so just how long should people be given? Cannot get an answer from any Obama supporter!

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    I think far too many have very short memories on some issue, like the November 2 election, when the Republicans took over 60 seats in the House and 682 state legislative positions, a truly historic election and results. The people were screaming, "Stop the Spending!" so now we have a test of that vote so let's see what happens. 2 years doesn't seem to be enough time to find a job for some people so just how long should people be given? Cannot get an answer from any Obama supporter!
    I hope I haven't already posted this link in this thread. It's an eye opener and explains things in simple terms anyon should be able to understand.


    The reason: Danish studies show that the longer a person goes without a job, the harder it is to find work. Many people get a job within the first three months of entering the system, but many more wait until just before benefits expire to take anything available.

    it shows that between 2005-7, the number of people who got jobs during their four years of benefits — the green line – rose at the beginning before dropping sharply, then spiked as benefits were about to run out, only to plummet after. The red line shows similar behavior in 1998, when Denmark’s benefit period was five years.
    “It shows that people are not seeking all the jobs they could get, but just the jobs they would like to have,” said Steen Bocian, chief economist at Danske Bank.
    That luxury has become too dear as Denmark exits a two-year downturn
    Why Denmark Is Shrinking Its Social Safety Net - NYTimes.com
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When in trouble always bring out the classwarfare card and "republicans want to starve kids, kill seniors, and pollute the air" rhetoric. Now add to that Republicans want to kick the unemployed into the curb. How long do today's unemployed get unemployment benefits? doubt that many here who support extension even care that it is two years.
    It's not 2 years. Should this latest extension somehow pass, it would be called 99 weeks of unemployment, which would result in recipients receiving checks for 49.5 weeks. You receive double compensation checks from your State unemployment commission. I know, I was unemployed in 2003. When my year was over only 6 months had passed. I got an extension from president Bush for 13 weeks. You guessed it: 6.5 more weeks of compensation.

    I just wanted to inform those, who may have never been unemployed, that screaming about "2 years of unemployment compensation" is wrong.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    It's not 2 years. Should this latest extension somehow pass, it would be called 99 weeks of unemployment, which would result in recipients receiving checks for 49.5 weeks. You receive double compensation checks from your State unemployment commission. I know, I was unemployed in 2003. When my year was over only 6 months had passed. I got an extension from president Bush for 13 weeks. You guessed it: 6.5 more weeks of compensation.

    I just wanted to inform those, who may have never been unemployed, that screaming about "2 years of unemployment compensation" is wrong.
    A lot has changed since 2003

    FRBSF Economic Letter: Extended Unemployment and UI Benefits (2010-12, 4/19/2010)

    then it was extended another 26 weeks prior to the November 2010 elections.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

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    A lot has changed since 2003

    FRBSF Economic Letter: Extended Unemployment and UI Benefits (2010-12, 4/19/2010)

    then it was extended another 26 weeks prior to the November 2010 elections.
    You are right. It really is 99 real weeks. Oh well, it looks like our homeless population is about to expand by an order of magnitude.

    99 Weeks: When Unemployment Benefits Run Out - 60 Minutes - CBS News

    It cost $100b to extend unemployment to 99 weeks. I guess it's time to cut off the extensions. It's also time to liberate the Iraqi people from US taxpayer dollars. We won't look good if we finance the Iraqis while feeding American citizens cold turkey.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    You are right. It really is 99 real weeks. Oh well, it looks like our homeless population is about to expand by an order of magnitude.

    99 Weeks: When Unemployment Benefits Run Out - 60 Minutes - CBS News

    It cost $100b to extend unemployment to 99 weeks. I guess it's time to cut off the extensions. It's also time to liberate the Iraqi people from US taxpayer dollars. We won't look good if we finance the Iraqis while feeding American citizens cold turkey.
    Right we have homeless people in this country because of the Iraq War? We have starving people in this country because of the Iraq War? Since when has lack of spending caused the problems of high unemployment, poverty, and homelessness? Too many here are very naive when it comes to actual facts and reality. I don't know why you or anyone else continues to buy the liberal rhetoric which does nothing but make you look foolish when countered with the facts.

    This country has spent trillions on the "War on Poverty" and we still have poverty. I hate to break it to you but there were homeless people and people living in poverty before the Iraq War.

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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    You are right. It really is 99 real weeks. Oh well, it looks like our homeless population is about to expand by an order of magnitude.

    99 Weeks: When Unemployment Benefits Run Out - 60 Minutes - CBS News

    It cost $100b to extend unemployment to 99 weeks. I guess it's time to cut off the extensions. It's also time to liberate the Iraqi people from US taxpayer dollars. We won't look good if we finance the Iraqis while feeding American citizens cold turkey.
    Yeah, 99 weeks. And the historical tradition of our congress pricks in Washington is that once an "entitlement" is provided/extended it seldom is ever reduced/rescinded.

    Will be surprised if it is ever less than 99 weeks anytime soon....


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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    For those who thought unemployment benefits were only adding to federal debt. Check out the states that are headed for trouble because of the extensions.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/25830479/detail.htmlState
    Sen.-elect Fran Millar told Geary the state owed the federal government $416 million dollars, money borrowed to cover unemployment benefits since the economic downturn.
    Millar said that total grows to $1.1 billion by the end of 2013 if the state does not make changes to taxes or how it pays benefits


    Beebe Hopeful for Compromise on Unemployment Debt - ABC News

    Gov. Mike Beebe said Tuesday he's hopeful business and labor leaders can come up with a proposal to repay more than $330 million Arkansas owes the federal government for unemployment benefits so lawmakers can address the issue during next year's session.
    Arkansas is one of 35 states that owe the federal government money for regular unemployment benefits, said Randy Zook, the president and chief executive officer of the chamber. It has had to borrow because of the number of residents collecting unemployment benefits. Zook said that if Arkansas doesn't find a way to repay the money, the federal government will recoup it by raising the tax businesses pay for unemployment.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Don't unemployment benefits go right back into the economy? Those collecting usually are paying for mortgages, food, heat, pretty much the essentials. They aren't saving much of that money. When unemployment for millions runs out there will be another wave of foreclosures and we will fall into another recession. Might want to be careful what we wish for.
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    Re: House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Well it looks like the House Dems finally learned something from the GOP. Its not about laws or people or the nation but rather the most important thing is making your opponent look bad. Thanks for the lesson Republicans. We hope to see more of it in the future.
    It's a good thing the Democrats never tried to do that when George W. Bush was in office.

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