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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    ....Maybe
    This: Tea Party activists come out against START | The Cable

    Adresses a few of peoples concerns?

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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Duty View Post
    Dont forget transparency
    I would say that most Conservatives the Obama Administration has been transparent. We see right through the lies and directly into his Socialist/Marxist agenda.

    The only ones for whom it has been opaque are the Liberals but then they can't help it they have been blinded by Obama's ability to read off a teleprompter to the point where the truth now eludes them like a will-of-the-wisp.

    I believe Obama is to inexperienced and naive to be negotiating anything past the price of a Taco from a street vendor in Tijuana.

    He's the great appeaser no negotiator. Now if we need to apologize for something send in the clown he can bow and scrape better than anyone in history but I don't trust him with my security for a second.
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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So, then what's the point?
    Ask Reagan. It was his idea first.

    Fewer nukes is cheaper to maintain I suppose.
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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    meh if he does get this done it would be the only thing I would agree with him on so far.
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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist the gov. View Post
    meh if he does get this done it would be the only thing I would agree with him on so far.
    Then tell your Republican Seantors (if you have those) to pass it.

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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    IMO, the treaty should be ratified. It does not inhibit the United States' ability to continue to ballistic missile defense research nor does it inhibit modernization of the nation's nuclear arsenal. Although it somewhat lowers Russia's and the United States' nuclear arsenals, it does not do so to the extent that their deterrent value is compromised.
    Doesn't the Preamble of the the New START Treaty state Russia's intention to withdraw from the Treaty if American missile defense imposes unacceptable limitations on Russia's strategic weapons? I think so. This introduces ambiguity that Russia will use as leverage in the future. This article says it better than I can:

    New START

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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Then tell your Republican Seantors (if you have those) to pass it.
    Ya well some Rep. are already against this.
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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Doesn't the Preamble of the the New START Treaty state Russia's intention to withdraw from the Treaty if American missile defense imposes unacceptable limitations on Russia's strategic weapons? I think so.
    Under the spirit of the treaty, the strategic nuclear military relationship between the two parties is expected to be stable. Research into missile defense is ok. Deployment to the extent that the strategic balance is altered is not. Neither side would accept an arrangement under which the other would gain cover to make a strategic breakthrough that would largely neutralize the other's strategic capability. Both sides wanted to set the nuclear balance at a lower level.

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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Obama has a hard time getting 60 votes in the senate how is he going to get 67? It takes 67 to ratify a treaty

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    Re: Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

    Just so you guys know. If ONE side has complete missile defense (which is unfeasable to science fiction proportions) then essentially it would have the tactical ability to complete a nuclear strike unpunished. In other words. If one side tilts the balance too much, such as say, the US. Then the other side, Russia would merely re-align and place efforts into strategically balancing. Do we need Russia re-structuring into a more militarist economy? Methinks not. If we could completely dominate the planet from a nuclear means... that's just going to incite people to plant a bomb under washington DC. It'd give us an actual reason to worry about nuclear terror.

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